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Extraordinary tale of scientist parents who adopted a chimpanzee to raise as their baby's SISTER - but bitterly regretted bizarre 'nature versus nurture' experiment on their son after it yielded chilling results
UK Daily Mail ^ | January 20, 2024 | Bethan Sexton

Posted on 01/22/2024 5:06:55 PM PST by Twotone

Extraordinary video footage shows how two scientist parents attempted to raise their infant son alongside a chimpanzee as part of a bizarre nature versus nurture experiment in 1931.

Psychologists Winthrop and Luella Kellogg conducted the study on their ten-month-old son Donald and a seven-month-old chimp called Gua at their Florida home.

The couple were attempting to establish if it was possible to educate an ape and teach them to communicate as a human.

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Donald took to walking around on all fours, dragging his knuckles like an ape.

He would often start biting people when he became aggressive and he and Gua shared a secret language of bark-like noises that they would use to communicate.

Donald began to lag behind his peers in terms of development, and often chose to shun other children in favor of playing with Gua.

All the while, Gua was growing in strength and becoming more and more unpredictable.

Eventually, the couple became so concerned by Donald's behavior and the potential for Gua to lash out that they opted to end the experiment early.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: chimpanzee; experiment; floridaman; floridawoman; winthropkellogg
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To: Twotone

this is child abuse and those very stupid “parents” should be in jail....


41 posted on 01/22/2024 5:32:18 PM PST by cherry
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To: Twotone

The parents should be locked in the zoo with the monkeys


42 posted on 01/22/2024 5:32:29 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Fungi

Kingdom Animalia
Phylum Chordata
Subphylum Vertebrata
Class Mammalia
Order Primates
Family Hominidae
Genus Homo
Species sapiens

Chimpanzees are the same family but
Genus Pan
species troglodytes


43 posted on 01/22/2024 5:34:36 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: metmom

I feel near the same way about 6ft adult Kangaroos.
If I had grown up in Australia, it may be different.

They can be trained, but are never domesticated, as a dog or horse could be. Roos have a deep mean streak, one based on survival. They think nothing of efficiently trying to drown your dog, if that dog or you, if they feel threatened in any way. They have a cold, empty look in their eyes.


44 posted on 01/22/2024 5:38:50 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Red Badger

Which only shows how ignorant they truly were.


45 posted on 01/22/2024 5:39:08 PM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: No name given

Well, it was 1933, so nobody had ever done such a thing. And Edgar Rice Burroughs and Rudyard Kipling’s novels were still fairly new............................


46 posted on 01/22/2024 5:40:47 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Stupid ideas are not confined to this century to be sure.


47 posted on 01/22/2024 5:44:26 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Twotone

I wonder how good the kid was at throwing his poo.


48 posted on 01/22/2024 5:45:12 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Twotone

This kind of experiment would never fly in today’s world. It would never get past IRB review. I think even back in 1931, people knew that no matter how much you try to teach an animal to act human, it will still act like an animal. Did those idiots think that a chimpanzee is just a furry uncivilized human or something?

Chimp and human DNA may be 98-99% similar, but that 1-2% difference is quite significant!


49 posted on 01/22/2024 5:45:38 PM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: Jonty30

committed suicide at the age of 43


50 posted on 01/22/2024 5:46:41 PM PST by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: Twotone

Agree. They were nothing more than sadists.


52 posted on 01/22/2024 6:05:36 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: Candor7

The author is as out of touch with reality as furries are.


53 posted on 01/22/2024 6:07:33 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: Red Badger

I’m an old Marine, probably half primate at least, lol.


54 posted on 01/22/2024 6:07:48 PM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could fight - Romeo company)
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To: Candor7

The author is as out of touch with reality as furries are.

There is something wrong with adults who play dress up as animals and it is not just a matter of being a *fan* of something.


55 posted on 01/22/2024 6:08:21 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: OftheOhio

Me too!................


56 posted on 01/22/2024 6:11:54 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Twotone

In the late 1990’s some group of researchers at LSU obtained funding for a study pairing infant chimpanzees with a human couples. The study would provide housing, furnishing, etc. for a childless couple to raise the chimpanzee as a human, taking the chimpanzee with them in a stroller, car seat, carrier as a human couple would with a human baby...going to the grocery store, the park, etc. At the time they were setting this up they had leased or built an apartment complex where all involved in the study were housed. My knowledge of this came from the USDA APHIS inspector who came by my farm for inspections once or twice a year. He was trying to get the project shut down before it started. I lost track of the inspector after I sold the farm...but I assume that he was successful in shutting it down because I didn’t hear anything about it being completed.


57 posted on 01/22/2024 6:14:05 PM PST by RouxStir (No Peein' in the Gene Pool )
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To: Twotone

And so, now in Maine and Massachusetts, as in the UK, the Lefties want individuals in private homes to take in those undocumented “migrants.” Gosh, whatever could possibly go wrong? S A R C


58 posted on 01/22/2024 6:26:59 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Jonty30
1952 college yearbook photo


59 posted on 01/22/2024 7:01:47 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: scrabblehack

Cladistics very often depend on the viewpoint of the one doing the classification and what factors are considered as a separator.
As an example...if the ability to make vocalization similar to humans...the parrot, or lyra bird would be in our line. Closer than chimps or orangutans.
In the future when all genomes have been elucidated we might base our connected relationships on the closeness of the genomes, and number and sequence of the base pairs...


60 posted on 01/22/2024 7:57:34 PM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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