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Marjorie Taylor Greene Uses Zelensky's Own Speech to Reject Ukraine Aid
Newsweek ^ | January 20, 2024 | Thomas Kika

Posted on 01/20/2024 1:50:58 PM PST by Navy Patriot

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To: JonPreston
--- "So it's either support additional $billions to Zelensky, or you're with Putin? "

I think that is the simplistic 'dualism' of these folks. A third or fourth perspective flummoxes them.

21 posted on 01/20/2024 3:55:14 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Yes, from the get-go. It’s been either support war, or you are a Russian spy. It’s actually a page out of Hillary’s, Russia! Russia! Russia! playbook.


22 posted on 01/20/2024 4:00:09 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: PIF
MTG cheers Putin onward!

There's that binary thinking we've all come to know and loath!

23 posted on 01/20/2024 4:05:41 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: JonPreston
--- "It's actually a page out of Hillary's, Russia! Russia! Russia! playbook."
Mr. Preston, there is a likelihood that two conservatives might, from time to time, disagree, one with the other. Such is the nature of liberty.

These few years with Free Republic, I have found it interesting how potential disagreements so easily blow up into outright invective and more. It makes me think that liberals, who hate disagreement, are here in a number more than just a few. Rather like Limbaugh's "seminar callers."

And at least one Green Party DC Statehood candidate who seems firmly on the side of Biden's foreign policy. And another who likes to quote a Biden supporter / endorser in the last election. Not conservative, by any means.

24 posted on 01/20/2024 4:08:47 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Well said Worldtravler, and I expect their noise to get louder as Project Ukraine collapses. Enormous amounts of money, global power, and perhaps the fate of NATO are at risk. If the West hadn’t shown itself to be untrustworthy, I think this would have ended by now. Any off-ramp will not be friendly for what remains of Ukraine.


25 posted on 01/20/2024 4:19:48 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Red6
I generally agree with all your many points with the exception of the last paragraph.

I'm not saying to cut Ukraine off, rather spend it on bringing them back to their feet.

OK, However do it carefully, Capitalistic & Free Market oriented, absolutely NO GloboHomoTrannyPedo insider corruption of the market, and USA needs first, before we send anything overseas.

Continue arming them, providing intel and advisors to make any additional Russian military action costly...

Absolutely NOT!

That's what prompted the entire Uke Nazi Cabal to believe they could get away with Piracy of the area's natural resources, and product in the first place.

They've lost their right to use force for any purpose.

Screw 'em.

26 posted on 01/20/2024 4:34:49 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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"The report identifies many prominent investors, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."

War and Theft: The Takeover of Ukraine's Agricultural Land

27 posted on 01/20/2024 4:37:46 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Navy Patriot

Zelensky will never agree to a cease fire and peace talks until he is cut off by Congress. And he must know and understand he has to give up the pro-Russian populated eastern oblasts - those east of the Dnieper River.


28 posted on 01/20/2024 5:33:20 PM PST by elpadre (y ")
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To: Navy Patriot
That's a problem in that ANYTHING government touches of course always has the political elite and corporate oligarchs skimming off the top in various ways.

Everything we make fun of about the Russians applies to us as well. We are no different.

Look at it as the price of doing business. Just like a business has all these incured costs because of the EPA and EEOC etc. If government is involved, there is always a political and economic considerations that are applied, i.e. make oneself look good and ones opponent bad, make sure those backing your party and campaign make their money.

School lunches
Covid
The food pyramid
Vaccines
Immigration
The border wall
LGBTQIA and programs to help them
Every so called environmental program
School curricula
The DOJ and their crime statistics
Farm subsidies
The postal service
Even NASA

The government is incapable of merely being objective and pragmatic in its decision making. Government is a political apparatus and the politicians and their parties live off the money the big corporations and oligarchs who also own the MSM give them. Everything they touch becomes political in nature.

29 posted on 01/21/2024 12:22:40 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
Nuts, I can't find anything in your reply #29 to disagree with.

I'm going back to Trolling Zeepers.

30 posted on 01/21/2024 1:01:20 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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