NBC kooks just won't admit it" Are you a US citizen? Then yeah. You can become the president.
Birthers are 0-226 on Obama alone.
That did not stop obozo.
I think this is a dead issue. I agree with your position, but the courts are idiots and do not care what the truth is.
Discussing this topic will have no real world impact.
They are going to do it anyway.
So funny to see Trump, Trump supporters, and the media first use Ramaswamy, then Haley to wedge out DeSantis, then as she is poised to beat Trump in New Hampshire because of open voting by non-Republicans, they now raise the obvious issue many of us have raised since day one, Ramaswamy and Haley are not eligible. Guess everyone is now done with useful tool Haley, so time to dump her quickly. Consider even Gov Sununu trashed her earlier today after saying she could win, having endorsed, now says she could never win, maybe could manage second place in New Hampshire, etc. So transparent.
Paul Ingrassia is nothing more than a writer who is making his own interpretation of the "Natural Born Citizen" clause in the Constitution.
He ain't going anywhere..........Sheesh!
Every one of the early presidents was the child of non-citizens so this is just goofy nativism run amuck. Stop wasting time with bad arguments and share good ones (of which there are plenty) for why people shouldn't vote for Neo-con warmonger Nikki.
Whether or not she is eligible is not the correct question. That would have been correct back during the era of the rule of law, but we are beyond that era, into the era of the rule of force.
So the correct question now is: “Even if she is ineligible, who is going to stop her?”
If bloggers or FReepers were in charge this might matter, but they’re not.
seeing something else here. camel’s nose under the tent to a foreign-born future “President” being installed by the powers that be under the guise of the new normality Nikki will be introducing...”The constitution doesn’t really mean what the text seems to say about who can be President”.
The Constitution does not allow non-natural born citizens to be President but, like Obama, people allowed it. Obama even produced a fake birth certificate and deleted airline passenger manifests from Kenya. However, raw emotion caused a blind eye to his ineligibility.
1. Is Nikki Haley a U.S. citizen now? If your answer is "yes," then . . .
2. Did Haley ever undergo an actual "naturalization" process in order to become a citizen?
If the answer to this second question is "no," then Haley is a "natural born citizen" within the meaning of the U.S. Constitution, Article II, all other contortions and distortions aside.
A "natural born citizen" is someone who, by operation of law -- i.e., whatever law was in place at the time of the person's birth -- was a U.S. citizen at birth. That's all "natural born citizen" means, and that's all the term has ever meant. Period. Full stop.
Raising concern about Nikki Haley’s eligibility will be used as ammunition to shoot down any effort to fully discuss the question. Their first strike will be to discredit those who do as MAGA extremists belonging in the basket of deplorables. Much of their motivation is they don’t want anything to prevent Nikki Haley from winning the nomination. The Dems see her as easy to defeat after they replace Biden with, who I predict, will be The Mooche.
This is BS. My family fled Poland to escape the oppression of Jews. My grandfather was born here in CA. They were all proud to be Americans - and yes, they were Republicans.
My grandfather became famous at something else.....but had he intended to run for POTUS, he could. He was born here. He was a natural born US citizen. My family did not have to wait another generation to have an offspring who was eligible.
All of the first American Presidents were US citizens the day of independence. They were born here. They were not born of “US citizens”. It would be at least two generations before we had a POTUS who was both born here and born to US citizens.
If you don’t like Haley, then don’t vote for her. But she is eligible to run for the office.
NBC kooks just won't admit it" Are you a US citizen? Then yeah. You can become the president.
Birthers are 0-226 on Obama alone.
If the child is born here, yes it does. Get over it.
BTTT
Well:
The Congressional Research Service concluded in 2011:
“The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term ‘natural born’ citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship ‘by birth’ or ‘at birth,’ either by being born ‘in’ the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; The predominant legal scholarship holds that the term natural born citizen applies, quite simply, to anyone who is a U.S. citizen at birth, or by birth, and does not have to go through the naturalization process. The child of parents who are U.S. citizens, regardless of whether he or she is born abroad, fits into the category under most modern interpretations.”
https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-not-born-in-the-us-3368103
Kristi Noem.
Born in the USA to TWO parents BOTH born in the USA.
All born in Watertown, Codington Co., SD USA
Yes we clearly need a USSC definition. They rejected 6 cases on Sotero.
Jay and Washington exchanged a letter expressing their concern about a “foreigner” being commander -in-chief.
We also have Vattel’s definition from 1744 which the founders knew about. A NBC has citizen parents and is born in country.
Here is the logic. If a child born in the US but has foreigners as parents, the child has a choice of citizenship. Using Sotero, his father was British as a Kenya at that time. So Sotero could have declared british or US. Does anyone think the founders would have accepted a Brit as commander in chief, especially after two wars?
The ability to have options about your citizenship means you are not automatically a NBC; thus you are ineligible to be president.
This recently applied to Jindal, Harris, Sotero, and I don’t know about Vivek’s parents.
Ingrassia doesn’t have the guts to initiate legal action regarding this.
It’s easy to write an article claiming what he does.
It takes guts to walk the walk.