Alec Baldwin Charged Again with Involuntary Manslaughter in Fatal “Rust” Shooting

People ^ | 1/19/24 | Eric Anderson

[DallasBiff]

Wow New Mexico?

[Macoozie]

Just wait for the old ATM syndrome to kick in.

“Amnesia Through Money”

It’s now just a matter of how much.

[EvilCapitalist]

This is a must for any Alec Baldwin thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udS6losK7Ts

[verum ago]

Eh, we'll see.

'the district attorney could get the grand jury to indict a ham sandwich if he wanted'

I hope they get him for it. Bottom line is he pointed a gun at another human being and pulled the trigger without verifying it was unloaded.

[Responsibility2nd]

Charged again? How many times are they gonna charge him?

What’s going on here?

[EvilCapitalist]

He’ll never see a day behind bars.

[Paladin2]

She was cute.

He’s still a total retard.

Lock him up.

[Recompennation]

But but but, it was and ax cid dent.

[Spok]

Baldwin is too connected to do any time.

[bunkerhill7]

Double jeopardy is illegal.

[verum ago]

New Mexico statutes § 30-2-3:

Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice.

A. Voluntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed upon a sudden quarrel or in the heat of passion.

Whoever commits voluntary manslaughter is guilty of a third degree felony resulting in the death of a human being.

B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.

Whoever commits involuntary manslaughter is guilty of a fourth degree felony.

Sounds about right to me. It wasn't a deliberate / depraved mind / in the commission of another felony (1st degree murder in NM), nor did he know (that's the word in the statute) his act carried a strong probability of causing her death (he rather thought otherwise) (2nd degree murder). And as noted above, it wasn't voluntary manslaughter.

I still wouldn't mind some sort of aggravating enhancement though.

[Sacajaweau]

The new info was that the day before he practiced and said "But I don't want to aim it at you". So the idea that this gun scene was new.

And he actually picked out this gun himself for the movie...AND...the movie is about a kid who accidently kills someone and is one the run. What are the chances??

[IYAS9YAS]

What’s going on here?

From the article: After special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason J. Lewis took over the case, they announced in April that they were dropping charges against Baldwin citing “new facts” in the case. They also said they reserved the right to re-charge him.

Two months later, the prosecutors wrote in a court filing that the gun had been sent to an independent expert for further testing.

“The charges against Alec Baldwin were dismissed without prejudice because a possible malfunction of the gun significantly affects causation with regard to Baldwin, not with regard to Gutierrez. If it is determined that the gun did not malfunction, charges against Mr. Baldwin will proceed,” they wrote.

Looks like the results of the independent testing are in and that the firearm functioned perfectly. That is to say it only fired due to pulling the trigger.

[Responsibility2nd]

Thanks. I didn’t know they had dropped the original charges.

This is not Double Jeopardy.

[IYAS9YAS]

Double jeopardy is illegal.

True, but he hasn't been tried yet. So it doesn't apply. They charged him, dropped the charges without prejudice (which means the charges can be re-filed if new evidence warrants such), and have now re-filed charges against him.

[Responsibility2nd]

Double jeopardy is illegal.

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It is. But that has nothing to do with this second charge.

[TexasGator]

“Double jeopardy is illegal.”

No double jeopardy

[Leaning Right]

> Double jeopardy is illegal. <

True. But I don’t think double jeopardy applies here because Baldwin never went to trial. There was no determination of guilt or innocence. Charges were just dropped. And dropped charges can be refilled. It’s still an open case.

That’s the way I interpret it, anyway.

[verum ago]

Charged again? How many times are they gonna charge him?

What’s going on here?

Going off memory (so take with a grain of salt) and my own speculation: his initial defense was that the gun went off on its own. Problem is, it was discovered that the gun was damaged by the FBI's examination and was also modified from factory condition, which would give his defense team a good measure of "reasonable doubt" as to the prosecution's assertion that he pulled the trigger. Therefore, they dropped the charge so as not to risk losing at trial and being unable to try him again (double jeopardy) while the gun was examined further.

Sometime this past summer or fall, a new forensic examination of the gun was completed, which established that the trigger did indeed have to have been pulled for it to be discharged, notwithstanding any modifications or damage. So, now being able to overcome his "I didn't pull the trigger" defense, they refiled the charge.

[IYAS9YAS]

Here's a link to that story with the new footage. He knew what he was doing. And he was probably in a foul mood and did something out of spite, and now regrets it.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/alec-baldwin-fires-prop-gun-tells-rust-crew-dont-want-shoot-toward-you-newly-released-video