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Honda’s 0 Series EV Concepts Look Straight Out of ‘Star Wars’
The Drive ^ | Chris Tsui

Posted on 01/09/2024 9:22:11 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Tell It Right

You are grid tied?

The power company is legislated to pay you for power?


21 posted on 01/10/2024 3:33:10 AM PST by Chickensoup
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To: Red Badger

Are they triple wrapping the battery with asbestos....


22 posted on 01/10/2024 3:37:58 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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To: Red Badger

It would sell well to idiots who think that a “green” vehicle should be horrendously ugly, so everyone around them instantly understands that they are doing their part to save the planet.


23 posted on 01/10/2024 3:42:49 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "democracy" like trying to throw your opponent in jail.)
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To: alexander_busek

“The possibility that onlookers might find my conveyance unattractive simply doesn’t factor into my decision.”

Nope. But I have to see it every day. Given a choice, I’m not spending my money on something I think is ugly


24 posted on 01/10/2024 4:01:22 AM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Red Badger

Star Wars? Nah … more like Robo Cop or Judge Dred type stuff.


25 posted on 01/10/2024 4:20:16 AM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Red Badger

The name ‘Saloon’ seems to me to be on the right track. It’s more what you’d find on the floor of an Old West Saloon, though - the Spittoon.


26 posted on 01/10/2024 4:30:38 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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To: Red Badger

A lot of concept cars are good looking, thought that van is butt ugly. We never get them in real life though.


27 posted on 01/10/2024 4:38:51 AM PST by Pollard (Hi)
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To: mdmathis6
"What is it that you use for energy storage?"

He gave you the answer: the grid - the power you and I pay for.

28 posted on 01/10/2024 4:39:46 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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To: mdmathis6
Small shoe boxed sized wind turbines could be used in automotive uses in hybrids cars to augnebt power for the batteries [...]

Seriously?!

Where would they be mounted? On the car's roof? Would it function like a perpetual motion machine?

Is this your idea? Or has any automobile manufacturer seriously proposed the use of shoe-box sized wind turbines to power electric (hybrid) vehicles?

Regards,

29 posted on 01/10/2024 4:46:20 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: G Larry

Yeah, I was gonna say...send it straight to the museum.


30 posted on 01/10/2024 5:13:48 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: nuconvert

***It’s ugly***

Yes. But, in my humble opinion, most of the new cars these days lack beauty. They just look like poorly designed big hunks of black plastic.

Flame away!


31 posted on 01/10/2024 5:32:29 AM PST by systemjim (Lifetime Lover of Music)
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To: Red Badger

They’re trippin’


32 posted on 01/10/2024 7:27:53 AM PST by Tommy Revolts
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To: vpintheak

You beat me to it. 😉


33 posted on 01/10/2024 7:31:57 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Chickensoup; rlmorel; mdmathis6
See comment # 23 on selling power to the grid. I get only 1/4th the price per kWh that I pay when I need power. Thus I sell power to the grid only when I have nothing else usable incoming solar power. So my algorithm for incoming solar power is:

1) supply power to the electrical panels, if there's excess solar power,
2) charge the batteries, if the batteries are charged at least 70% (enough to power the home through the night),
3) power an intermittent circuit for charging the EV with excess power, if there's still excess solar coming in keep charging the batteries.
4) If the batteries are fully charged and there's still more solar coming in than my electrical panels need, sell power to the grid.

If we come home in the EV with more than enough charge for the next day, we plug the EV into an intermittently powered charging circuit. My wife asks for at least 120 miles range for most daily uses. So if the EV has less than 120 miles charge we plug it into the constantly powered circuit (think of that circuit as always on, but not always free). If we come home with more than 120 miles range we plug it into the intermittently powered circuit (not always on, but when it's on it's always free power).

Last year we drove the EV 26K miles, with 16K of those miles charged at home (over 1,300 miles charged at home per month). Yet our total power bills last year was $890 ($74/month). That's for our all-electric home. That's with just recently started selling power to the grid this past fall (thus I sold very little power to the grid).

In year 2024 I expect selling power to the grid to lower the power bills by $15 month on average. I count it as gravy on the top, not a critical feature for whether or not it's worth going solar. That's because state or federal regulations can change (my state of Alabama never had net metering, and the states that did have it are getting away from it). If regulations change in the future to where it's not worth putting power onto the grid, I'll change a few settings on my inverters and quit selling power to the grid. I'll go back to being a normal power customer like everybody else except I'll pull a lot less power from the grid (which is what my relationship with the power company was the first 2 years I had solar).

If I wasn't a software engineer with experience mainly on the backend data processing, my throughput would probably be about 70% of my power free. But because my inverters can export telemetry in 5-minute candles I was able to analyze the throughput to see which parts should be strengthened when I did my upgrade after owning half the system of solar for a year to make sure it would do as expected. I made sure my upgrade was in the points that needed more optimization to take it to 83% average across the year. The point is, you don't have to be a data nerd to get 70% self-reliance on energy if you live in a climate like mine.

34 posted on 01/10/2024 7:40:34 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Is there some rule that EV’s have to be butt ugly?

When Toyota made their hybrids look like their internal combustion cars instead of their typical Prius look, the sales dropped off significantly.

It turns out that a disproportionate number of people were buying them only to virtue-whine.

...that or to advertise their sexual preferences.

35 posted on 01/10/2024 7:56:11 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

LOL! I believe it!


36 posted on 01/10/2024 11:31:25 AM PST by vpintheak (Pinko misanthrope)
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To: alexander_busek

Yes, yes. That’s why I don’t care about my ugly old ICE vehicles that are paid off and run just fine. At one point however, that ugly ICE vehicle did look pretty good.


37 posted on 01/10/2024 11:34:22 AM PST by vpintheak (Pinko misanthrope)
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To: Red Badger

Just...

Yuck.


38 posted on 01/10/2024 11:36:24 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Red Badger

Electric car concept. If gov’t has to force you to buy at very high prices then there is no market.


39 posted on 01/10/2024 10:11:25 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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