Posted on 12/31/2023 12:53:14 PM PST by Dacula
I had a discussion today with a church buddy, he was professing the fact that Nimrata was going to be the GOP choice for president. Back-and-forth banter took place.
My thought is that her parents were NOT citizens at the time she was born, therefore she is not eligible. Similar to Obama.
He also stated that anchor babies who are born in the United States are automatically US citizens. I disagree.
Please help.
Recent threads on the issue of Natural Born citizenship of had hundreds of replies here on Free Republic.
There is no Free Republic consensus on this subject. I don’t know if the 14th amendment has anything to do with presidential eligibility.
It doesn’t matter. No one is going to vote for Hatchet Face anyway.
Has the Natural Born Citizen or the Anchor Baby issue ever been decided in the Supreme Court?
What about anchor babies?
To my knowledge, the Anchor Baby - automatic citizenship issue has never been challenged in the Supreme Court.
Also, to my knowledge, the Anchor Baby - Natural Born Citizen (eligible for President) issue has never been challenged in the Supreme Court.
Bump.
Obama getting elected twice effectively nullified the NBC requirement.
Please help.
Can’t, until the federal court system rules on the subject its simply a matter of opinion. The court have never addressed the issue.
Since the court refused to take the case of Obama, it is now the accepted legal standard that citizenship granted at birth whether by blood or place meets the standard.
Obama is a peculiar case. It is not certain that his father was even Barack Hussein Obama Senior, native of Kenya (18 June 1934 – 24 November 1982). His genetic father was more likely Frank Marshall Davis (December 31, 1905 – July 26, 1987), an American journalist, poet, political and labor movement activist.
I want to see a DNA test. It may turn out, that neither man was Barack Hussein Obama’s genetic father, and that would muddy things up a lot.
You must think the constitution means anything anymore....
In Minor v. Happersett (1875), the Supreme Court defined two classes of persons. The first class consists of children born in the United States, of U.S.-citizen parents. The second class consists of all other U.S.-born children, regardless of their parents’ citizenship. The Court used the term “natural born citizen” only in reference to members of the first class. Regarding members of the second class, the Court doubted they were even citizens, let alone natural born citizens. In the Court’s opinion, natural born citizens are “distinguished from” aliens or foreigners, suggesting that a natural born citizen is someone who is not a “foreigner” (foreign citizen) at birth [05].
U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), the Supreme Court, reversing prior precedent, ruled that, under some circumstances, children born in the United States, of non-U.S.-citizen parents, acquire U.S. citizenship at birth. But, to this day, the Supreme Court has never ruled that such children are natural born citizens. On the contrary, our nation’s highest court has consistently used the term “natural born citizen” only in reference to persons born on U.S. soil, to U.S.-citizen parents.
If her parents decided to leave the United States, the United States had no jurisdiction to stop them from taking her with them, again, because they were not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States until they became citizens years later.
Your friend is correct. You don't have to like it. I don't like it. But that's the law.
You are close to correct. Also, every US Supreme Ct Justice was taught in law school that anchor babies qualify (Alexander Hamilton types do not.) Every Justice, every law student. FR loves this issue. It is not an issue. See - Obama.
Even if she got the nomination it would be a total blow out. She might win a handful of states.
That's the view of NBC conspiracy theorists who cannot point to "their" definition of NBC. She was born in the US, therefore like Vivek she is eligible. That she is a horrible choice for president is a separate matter.
Questions about Obama's eligibility on the other hand were due to lack of a birth certificate, not parents' citizenship status.
Babies born in USA (50 states) are citizens.
18USC ch12 (III)(1) 1401
If you are born in the USA there is no stipulation that your parents have to US citizens. It just is by law.
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