Posted on 12/12/2023 3:55:25 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | Every Ruzzian Attack is Catastrophe for them | Putin Still wants to take Kyiv
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Militaryland news The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 9th December 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-654-summary/
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As I have said, and I think you realize, the two are not related. Was there a border crisis before the Russians invaded?
Yes there was, so what was your claim for inaction then?
Was lyin er ah Ryan consumed with aid to Ukrainian war effort when he blocked President Trumps efforts in the house, just a reminder that 2017.
I have three businesses, if I could only focus on one thing at a time well….
The border crisis and the war in Ukraine are two different issues, you know that, but it makes a cool talking point
That lack of in-depth reasoning is why the left has enslaved America by focusing the justifiable rage of fools like you onto an external enemy while the regime enslaves you, robs you, and murders you.
Frankly I agree, here is an example
The much talked about attack by Russians on a relatively few marines, I believe, in Syria
The amount of air assets unleashed was staggering, something the Ukrainians have never had.
Take away the air power, and the results are not going to be as favorable.
There is a reason artillery ammunition was not a priority in western nations, we rely on air power to do the job, and artillery to supplement . You don’t need millions of rounds of artillery if your air power can neutralize the enemy threat with precision bombs or a few B-52s dropping tons of bombs.
Enemy air power is not a threat when its aircraft are burning on the ramp and air fields are cratered. First thing we did in desert storm was take out command and control, air defense systems, and then air assets and air fields. After that enemy air power was an occasional issue, but mostly it was watching them fly to Iran. Ground level and very fast. Was at a briefing with a 3 Star, and general was asked what he thought about Iraqi aircraft flying to an Iran. His answer “Iranian air force just got larger”, but those aircraft never threatened allied forces for the rest of the war
Our doctrine to deal with minefields and fortifications is quite clear, blast all enemy threats with air power, then clear minefields
I was in DS1, remember one attack helicopter pilot being read the riot act for expending millions of dollars of rockets on one bunker complex
So yes NATO training and doctrine is shit without air power.
Even the Russians with a relative advantage in air power but not air superiority can only make incremental gains at heavy costs
Your comment as well as your “reasoning” is stunning. More I would say pot calling kettle black, you seem incapable of dealing with more than one issue at hand.
Rage? Is see rage only coming from you.
I will ask again, was the border secure before the Russian invasion, was the debt out of control before the invasion, was the left destroying cultural norms in this country before the invasion, but to you and many like you all of these apparently began when we started siding Ukraine after Russia invaded, inferred will be solved if we just stop aiding Ukraine with our “tax dollars”. Good luck with that.
Your “argument “ works for you and yours, not on me
Which begs the question; why did NATO encourage this undermanned, undersupplied carnage, and worse, why do they continue to urge troops forward given this disparity?
That is an excellent question, and just like the border problem is one of politics not capability, so it is in Ukraine
Since the beginning of the invasion I have wondered why the west was so hesitant to provide the needed aid to defeat the Russians and force them back to their borders
We had the weapon systems they needed, but we gave them just enough to stem the Russian advances, but not drive them back.
Would imagine the successes of Kharkiv and Kherson were as much of a surprise to them as the Russians.
Some might be attributed to the “nuclear red line”, but I think that has pretty much been dispelled. I will say that a cornered Putin might go nuclear, just as hitler would have if had the capability, but the alternative is to say to all nuclear powers NK, Iran, China, Pakistan, India…..nuclear deterrence has turned into do whatever you want…
Giving weapons like cluster and atacms, and still lack of western aircraft, after the offensive was basically spent and the tactical and operational effect they could have had at the beginning wasted shows again how militaries win wars, politicians lose wars.
If I had to come up with something I would say most in the west even after Russian setbacks and Ukrainian successes, still thought that Russia would prevail, that the best scenario was to degrade Russian military, but not so much that Putin goes nuclear.
This half in half out approach has doomed many Ukrainians and Russians to death and disability
You keep being misled and abused with “bread and circuses” since you love it but I will take a pass on being an abused little bitch.
lol okay, but hopefully the snarky posts will continue.
Thought that was a genuine question, my mistake
Carry on
Good question
Why do generals fight the last war, till they are forced to fight the new one
Some may be arrogance, some may be more diabolical and thinking Ukraine can’t win so will give enough to degrade Russians, mostly politics and inability to make hard decisions.
You attack and then try to moralize about it like a good leftist. Anyone that’s pro-war at this point in America’s Color Revolution is either a moron or a deceiver. Which one are you Blitz?
Absolutely true. Given the centrality of air power to US doctrine the question to ask is: "Why?" It is either that the reptiles ruling us just want the conflict to drag on for money or that the Russian air defenses are too strong and the optics of American jets getting shot down is insupportable.
Thanks! The headlines of the tripe you post everyday is always good for a big belly laugh.
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Isn’t it interesting how mommy changed her posting time from evening to scattered morning hours?
This way she avoids comments by many of her detractors and can avoid answering questions by hiding behind her “busy” schedule.
much less visibility for her nonsense, which is a good thing.
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