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DIY: Furnace Air Conditioning Saving Project
Vanity | 12/8/2023 | Self

Posted on 12/08/2023 3:33:00 AM PST by CptnObvious

DIY (Do It Yourself): Furnace Air Conditioning Saving Project.

I've moved into a new home in a retirement community and don't want big bills to replace my furnace A/C down the line. I also don't like the idea that my energy bills may go up significantly with the global climate change policies that many are embracing. What can I do?

DIY (easy): Powered Furnace Filter - $149 Amazon. Improves air flow by 30% (lower heat/cooling bills), captures much finer/more particulate matter saving the furnace A/C down the road.

DIY (Moderate): Nest 3rd Generation or equivalent Wi-Fi Thermostat - $206 Amazon. Lowers furnace activity/energy consumption significantly saving the furnace A/C even more.

See YouTubes on the above.

Results: Singing in the air-intake vents. Proving the increased air efficiency. Adjusted with flat blade screwdriver just a bit. Humidity down 10% - Nice. :)

Much less furnace activity this December. Furnace much quieter than expected. :)

Notes: I'm expecting dirty pads from the filter after 3 months (Cleaned intakes/Furnace [Not A/C] before). Maybe I can get to every 6 months with cleanliness? Ordered several years' worth of pads on Amazon.

Normal Maintenance on Furnace A/C as usual.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: airconditioning; diy; furnace; vanity; wboopie

1 posted on 12/08/2023 3:33:00 AM PST by CptnObvious
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To: CptnObvious

It sounds like you have a great filtration system.

Being familiar with the basics for a furnace operation and typical failures, I do not understand how a top notch fibrillation system could save the burner assembly from failure. The filtration system keeps the heat exchanger much cleaner on the outside and may improve heat transfer, but does little to protect the parts of the furnace that typically fail.

And I do not understand how a thermostat will save on heating fuel. To keep a home at 70 degrees (or whatever your desired temp) it takes a certain amount of fuel, which means the furnace has to do the job and burn the fuel to do it. The only way it could save fuel is automatically lowering the temp on certain occasions, such as night time. Many have less expensive thermostats that already do this, we do it manually as we go to bed and then get up in the morning.


2 posted on 12/08/2023 4:25:28 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: CptnObvious

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3 posted on 12/08/2023 5:25:57 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: CptnObvious
depending on the age of your current AC, consider replacing it just before the new mandates go into effect with a current one. I get about 20 years out of my AC units in Texas, but you need to service the unit regularly. 15 to 20 years will get you down the road a long way.

I have similar concerns about water heaters and AC's. So I will be buying a new H2O heater to storage for the future.

4 posted on 12/08/2023 5:28:11 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: CptnObvious

Nest is Google, and I hate Google. And I’ve had a Nest thermostat, and like Ecobee smart thermostats and their UX better. I have three in service currently, had two others in a house I sold last Spring.

In short, buy Ecobee, not Nest.


5 posted on 12/08/2023 5:44:39 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: CptnObvious

I recently replaced my HVAC with a higher SEER rating (same manufacturer, nearly same form factor). It is much more efficient and the transition to the 5 inch thick (20X20X5) air filter also works better than the 1 inch thick ones I had in the old system. I’ve got 15 months of usage now and the resulting bills for heat AND air are noticeably lower than before.


6 posted on 12/08/2023 5:50:06 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: CptnObvious
You might also want to consider having your HVAC service unusual a Micro-Air easystart device to reduce the current draw from the AC compressor both startup & running. There are several models depending on the AC tonnage of your system. Link us https://www.micro-air.com/products_easystart_368_softstarter_microair.cfm
7 posted on 12/08/2023 5:57:35 AM PST by ClockDoc ( - Let the churches attend to the poor and the Gov. attend to our enemies.)
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To: redfreedom
1) It's dirt and friction from dirt. And dirt, especially micro particles that the normal filtration unit does not catch, gets into everything.

Dirt can be tobacco smoke and the like, which is like tar, even worse as it clogs up the A/C fins above the furnace. And even after professional cleaning builds up to the point where professional cleaning just cannot help.

A HEPA filter can get rid of much dirt except for it reduces air flow and does not get rid of the micro particles.

Whereas a Powered Filter, unlike the HEPA filter actually allows greater air flow than typical pleated ones, does catch the micro particles onto the pads, which are then thrown away.

2) Not only this, but the Powered filter reduces the humidity. And as you know, humid air takes much more energy to heat/cool. 

So, better air flow, lowered humidity means the furnace A/C system is not coming on as often as it normally would.

3) As for a Wi-Fi Thermostat, like the Nest 3rd generation builds up the heat/cooling slowly and not all at once as most do. And is the most efficient as you know. Not only this but the Wi-Fi accesses the weather stations, particularly the outdoor humidity and wind. So, the thermostat knows what it will be facing as no house is sealed ultimately. High wind, high outdoor humidity will need a greater attack initially. Then after the initial humidity is reduced a more efficient profile can be used.

4) Synergistic effect: The lowered humidity, lowered micro dirt tar, and increased flow of around 30% means increased efficiency and less wear. Then the smart 3rd Generation thermostat takes it to the next level.

And just so you know I'm not whistling dixie. We felt the difference with the Powered filter immediately.

Our skin cleaned up and congestion was much reduced as we are older.

We heard the difference as the intake vents started to sing and had to be adjusted. Our furnace used to rattle after being on for over 8 minutes. We noted that with the 3rd Generation thermostat we almost never hear that rattle.

We see the difference with the numbers of hours used. And less hours used= less wear and tear.

And yes, I anticipated the push back. And I appreciate it.

8 posted on 12/08/2023 6:15:29 AM PST by CptnObvious
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To: Lockbox
See my post on the Water Heater: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4202162/posts

Note: I live in a new community, therefore the system is not old and have caught it before much damage is done.

With older systems, much less would be realized, just as with the water heaters. See link attached.

9 posted on 12/08/2023 6:26:26 AM PST by CptnObvious
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To: FreedomPoster
From the Ecobee website:

Unlock enhanced savings and comfort with eco+, next-level software for the world’s most advanced thermostats.
  • Automatically turns down your temperature when nobody is home.3
  • Learns your routine and recommends changes to your thermostat schedule for optimal energy savings.3
  • Automatically heats or cools your home when electricity is more affordable and cleaner.4
  • Reduces strain on the electricity grid and provides you with incentives from your energy provider.2
Thanks for nothing.
10 posted on 12/08/2023 9:29:22 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

“Unlock”

You can keep that turned off.

You don’t think Google is spying on you? LOL


11 posted on 12/08/2023 10:39:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: ClockDoc

I’ve heard those are also good for starting an HVAC unit when it’s running on generator power, so as to not bog down the generator on startup.


12 posted on 12/08/2023 10:41:32 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: CptnObvious

I just looked for “Powered Furnace Filter” on YouTube and found nothing that fit that descripton — could you clarify?


13 posted on 12/08/2023 1:01:01 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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