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Posted on 12/05/2023 7:44:36 AM PST by Paul46360

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To: Zathras

And maximum solar inclination (altitude) in Portland area right now is about 22°.


41 posted on 12/05/2023 10:24:35 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Myrddin

Mine put out measurable current even at night (city lights refected back from atmosphere mainly). And if there’s a full moon, probably enough to charge that cell phone.


42 posted on 12/05/2023 10:27:13 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: JAKraig

“If I were completely depending on the Solar for all my electricity I would likely clean the snow and or ice off. If I had to I could just get the garden hose out and spray it off. “

Strikes me as an odd statement... while there’s ice and snow on my panels, the water if any is frozen in the hose.


43 posted on 12/05/2023 10:30:43 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: dfwgator; Paul46360; Brooklyn Attitude; JAKraig
Snow is bad, but hail storms destroy solar panels.
Exactly, and especially in Texas, where you are guaranteed at least one hailstorm every year, it’s dumb to get solar panels.

Just like democrats you guys know so much that isn't true.

Solar panels hold up to even pretty heavy hail. But just like anything in nature there are extreme events.

If your solar panels are destroyed by hail it would be the least of your problems.

44 posted on 12/05/2023 11:28:42 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: steve86
I have 125 watts of 12 VDC output potential from my panels. They sit in the living room now to avoid deterioration sitting outside. The only reason to have them is recharging cellphones and my wife's insulin pump. I have some small batteries to run my ham radio gear for emergency services comms. As long as there is gasoline, propane or natural gas, I have two generators that can create 120 VAC sufficient to power a refrigerator/freezer and a washing machine as necessary. In a "grid down", I won't be working for my employer as that requires my computers and a working internet. That leaves time to attend to survival activities.
45 posted on 12/05/2023 11:36:33 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: TangoLimaSierra; dfwgator; Paul46360; JAKraig

Do a search on “Solar panel array destroyed by hail” and click on images. There are plenty of them.

The incident below happened earlier this year in Nebraska.
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/solar/solar-farm-pelted-by-giant-hail-as-severe-storm-ripped-through-nebraska/


46 posted on 12/05/2023 11:44:41 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
As I said; "But just like anything in nature there are extreme events."

The event you refer to is one of those. "Giant hail", "Severe storm".

Prove it to yourself. After every hail storm in your area go check out the solar panels in your neighborhood.

My 10 year old system has been thru many hail storms. Not a nick.

47 posted on 12/05/2023 12:12:23 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“My 10 year old system has been thru many hail storms. Not a nick.”

It’s only a matter of time.

“Prove it to yourself. After every hail storm in your area go check out the solar panels in your neighborhood.”

Yeah. That’s what I’ll do. :-)


48 posted on 12/05/2023 12:28:58 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

That looks horrible. When you purchase panels they all have a rating of what they can withstand Mine said they could be driven over with a dump truck and were tested with one inch ice balls shot at 100mph. We have had a few hail storms, so far I’ve been lucky I guess.


49 posted on 12/05/2023 12:47:10 PM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Yeah. That’s what I’ll do. :-)

Of course. You wouldn't want get any knowledge on you. Might interfere with your pontificating.

50 posted on 12/05/2023 3:34:14 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

“Of course. You wouldn’t want get any knowledge on you. Might interfere with your pontificating.”

I provided a link to multiple stories of hail damaging solar panels. That’s not pontificating, that’s EVIDENCE. You deny the risk because you haven’t had damage YET.


51 posted on 12/05/2023 4:31:19 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
That’s not pontificating, that’s EVIDENCE. You deny the risk because you haven’t had damage YET.

Another one married to a fallacious idea. Not gonna let go or do any research. A few articles on the internutz and that's good enough for you.

Those articles are just like plane crashes. They are all reported on but there are very few incidences.

Stay in your comfort zone.

52 posted on 12/05/2023 7:25:15 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: Paul46360
I thin k the biggest issue with solar/wind power and other things like electric cars is not in the technology deficiencies but in how the left wants to mandate global use.

These techs can have great success if used in their proper niche. Solar and Wind are decent (not great) supplements to the existing grid but it's a lousy solution to mandate their exclusive use.

Same with electric cars. Some people's life style is very favorable to owning an electric car. Say, if you live in an urban area and make a short commute and only drive short distances. That doesn't work for me, but the tech is solid for its proper use case.

53 posted on 12/06/2023 7:13:46 AM PST by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: Paul46360
Related...

From a couple of years ago...

Identifying snow in photovoltaic monitoring data for improved snow loss modeling and snow detection

...Snow coverage on the PV modules will lead to significant power losses, which must be estimated and accounted for in order to achieve accurate energy yield assessment and production forecasts. Additionally, detection and separation of snow loss from other system losses is necessary to establish robust operation and maintenance (O&M) routines and performance evaluations...

Well, it would if this was really about saving the planet and/or getting the best bang for the taxpayer's buck.

But it's not and never has been.

54 posted on 01/06/2024 7:25:18 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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