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Opinions Sought Concerning Supplements for Treating Long Covid
The Wellness Company ^

Posted on 11/21/2023 2:14:11 PM PST by ducttape45

Good afternoon everyone. I hope everyone is gearing up for the Thanksgiving holiday and ready to have a great time.

I wanted to keep this post short but I wanted to seek your opinions about supplements for treating Long Covid. As many of you know I contracted Covid and pneumonia early last year, and developed Long Covid late last year which resulted in me having to retire this past spring.

I have purchased several supplements over the past two years that I/we were told could possibly help treat the symptoms of Covid-19 & Long Covid, but which never really helped. Quercetin, Zinc, Vit C & D, Nattokinaise, Bromelain, and a few others.

Lately I have seen many advertisements for The Wellness Company, and one of their products is the Signature Series Spike Support Formula. It has the following ingredients: Nattokinase, Dandelion, Selenium, Black sativa, Green tea and Irish sea moss.

I emailed them and questioned them and this is the response I got, "Thank you for reaching out to TWC Customer Support. We have heard of people having great experiences with both Spike Support and Restful Sleep Supplements. Please remember these are supplements and to guaranteed to any possible conditions you may be experiencing. That last statement looks a bit weird and I'm wondering it there are a couple of typos there.

I'm seeking opinions on whether this stuff can really make a difference, or if they are just another money grabbing scheme. I know this no magic drug out there to treat Long Covid, but some days are difficult to endure and if I could find something that might actually help I'd be willing to give it a try.

I'm hoping there are doctors on these boards that would be willing to advise me. If you want to Freepmail me, please feel free to do so.

Thank you all for your help, and have a great Thanksgiving!


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KEYWORDS: longcovid
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To: Hot Tabasco

“you are better off consulting with your own family physician.......”

That’s sort of hilarious, considering that most family physicians were actively trying to kill us since mid-2020. Without hesitation, I can say at I got more trustworthy health info on FR than from my PCP.


81 posted on 11/22/2023 2:37:52 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (As God's children, we live on promises, not explanations - Wiersbe)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Great article about cats’ purring. The author mentions her “nurse cat”. We have one I’ve called my nurse, too, who is very tuned in to my health and discomfort.

The weeks after hip replacement, and during Covid, my husband and I slept in different bedrooms. “Maris Crane” always slept with me, by my feet. When I had to get up in the night, she did, too, and waited by my pillow until I came back.

Then she’d lie by my pillow next to my ear and purr me to sleep. When I got up again, she’d be down by my feet again, so I assumed she knew when it was OK to leave my pillow. She never really left me until I recovered.

When I have my blood pressure taken, I visualize stroking our softest cat, and always have excellent results.


82 posted on 11/22/2023 2:48:40 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (As God's children, we live on promises, not explanations - Wiersbe)
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To: DugwayDuke

OMG. You’re back?!


83 posted on 11/22/2023 2:49:50 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (As God's children, we live on promises, not explanations - Wiersbe)
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To: Republican Wildcat

“...what he said was true, and what you said was false. That is reality. And there’s nothing funny about it.”

Opinions are like assholes. Yours is funny.


84 posted on 11/22/2023 2:55:48 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (As God's children, we live on promises, not explanations - Wiersbe)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion wrote: “Name names or you’re just making it up...”

9YearLurker wrote: “Millions and millions have been killed by the jabs worldwide.”

Right after 9YearLurker names the names of the millions and millions who’ve been killed by the vaccines.


85 posted on 11/22/2023 4:37:48 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I knew you were bloviating.


86 posted on 11/22/2023 5:01:18 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: ducttape45

If you just do the Magnesium it will go very long way to balance a lot of things out. The mag form that someone else recommended is very good but expensive. I like glycinate or malate which are highly absorbable but less money. Several of the things on the list will not absorb if you’re low and mag. Don’t overwhelm yourself with this. And let me point out the most important thing ever: you are promised complete healing in God’s word if you’re a believer in Jesus Christ. It is already finished. It is done. You don’t need to ask God for healing you’ve already received it if you received salvation. Just receive by faith what you’ve already been given


87 posted on 11/22/2023 5:05:20 AM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: whitney69

—> vitmin D when its use in healthy people, moves blood levels higher than 100 nanograms per milliliter can trigger extra calcium absorption

You’d need a ridiculous amount.

Compare that to any drug or OTC med.

Show me where they are stacking the bodies from vitamin d or calcium overdose.

Compare that to fda “regulated and approved” meds - which kill people daily.

The deaths and harm and side effects and interactions from meds are 10,000X.

Start with Vioxx.


88 posted on 11/22/2023 5:08:56 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: ducttape45; TheWriterTX

Pinging TheWriterTX to this thread.


89 posted on 11/22/2023 5:19:38 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: ducttape45

TIP: nice ‘Black Friday’ discounts on supplements are available at many outlets (especially on-line) RIGHT NOW...might be a good time to load up if so inclined.


90 posted on 11/22/2023 5:24:01 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: MayflowerMadam
When I have my blood pressure taken, I visualize stroking our softest cat, and always have excellent results.

As one who deals with 'white jacket syndrome' at the "doctor's" office; I will take that advice under consideration. One of our cats is VERY fluffy.

91 posted on 11/22/2023 5:39:01 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: whitney69

Sod off $hot $hill.


92 posted on 11/22/2023 5:49:00 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ducttape45

Nattokinase has been experimentally demonstrated to destroy spike protein in lab experiments by Japanese researchers.

It also chews up blood clots.

You might consider NADH, I know a guy who says that it cleared up his headaches/brain fog. (N=1 sample size.)

Insert standard disclaimer that this is not medical advice, I am not an MD, this is something to talk over with your doctor.


93 posted on 11/22/2023 5:53:39 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Songcraft

I did not have long covid. Rather I talked with a many many people who did have long covid and reviewed a lot of research. There’s 80-90 footnotes for a 60 page book. What I learned is that there is no one size fits all. Why? People who get long covid generally have compromised immune systems due to chronic diseases or autoimmune diseases, or they’re carrying too much weight or they’re diabetic or prediabetic. They may be carrying old viruses in their bodies or they live with household mold. All these things degrade the immune system. The long covid hits the parts of their body that are most vulnerable.

As we get older a whole pharmacy of molecules that were with us when we were young—begin to degrade and go away. All of the things that I mentioned above accelerate that process.

NAC Glycine and Taurine. These all decline with age and they decline even more steeply in the presence of the problems mentioned above. Long covid nearly wipes them out. NAC and glycine create glutathione —which helps repair cells damaged by pollution, stress and other harmful influences.

The human body uses taurine for actions in cells. One example is that taurine is used for energy production. Taurine also helps the body process bile acid and balance fluids, salts and minerals, among other actions.

I mentioned extended release niacin, niacinamide and TMD. All these together increase NAD+ which the molecule that enables your body to make ATP. ATP to your body is what gasoline is to your car. NAD+ declines with age. Various maladies mentioned above—reduce it further. Long covid wipes it out.

These are all helpful treatments. Try them. You’ll find they are beneficial. But they’re not enough. Rather what you do is layer one kind of treatment on top of another. The book shows all the treatments that people have found to be successful.

You have to get your eating right. You can’t the the SAD american diet anymore. But first you have to test to see if you have histamine intolerances for certain foods. This may not be the case but you have to test.

You have to lower stress. If you have outbursts of long covid that totally jackknife you—then you have to figure out the level of stress that set off the symptoms. Why? Because stress sets off the symptoms. Most watches these days have tools that allow you to measure your stress level. So you figure out what stress level sets off the symptoms and you stay below that stress level.

There are bunch more things you can do. The book lists them.


94 posted on 11/22/2023 5:55:15 AM PST by ckilmer (ui)
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To: whitney69; aMorePerfectUnion

For vitamin D, take vitamin K2 with it plus healthy fat to aid absorption.

The K2 redirects the calcium from blood into bones and teeth.

Whatever Pfauci is paying you they’re getting ripped off.


95 posted on 11/22/2023 5:56:27 AM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion wrote: “I knew you were bloviating.”

Is 9YearLurker bloviating? If not, why not?


96 posted on 11/22/2023 6:37:46 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Moss

Moss wrote: “Peter McCullough”

Another grifter selling useless/ineffective snake oil to separate you from your money.

“Sponsored social media posts advertise a “detoxification supplement” called nattokinase that can supposedly counteract harmful effects from Covid-19 shots. This is false; experts and public health authorities told AFP there is no evidence the product — which regulators are reviewing for unproven claims — destroys harmless spike proteins from the jabs.”

“Nattokinase is the only enzyme that we’re aware of right now that dissolves the spike protein,” says Peter McCullough, a US cardiologist who has previously spread misinformation about vaccines, in a clip shared July 14, 2023 on Instagram. “Spike protein is loaded in the body with the Covid-19 infection and definitely with the vaccines.””

“In the video, both McCullough and former Fox News host Tucker Carlson mention The Wellness Company, a Florida-based firm selling a product called “Spike Support Formula” for nearly $80 a bottle. McCullough says on his website that he designed the supplement.”

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.33PA8L4

Funny thing, almost all the anti-vaxxers are selling something.


97 posted on 11/22/2023 6:55:45 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

—> Is 9YearLurker bloviating? If not, why not?

If someone is killed by the vaxx we know they are dead.

No one is verifiably “saved” by the vaxx.


98 posted on 11/22/2023 7:05:34 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: DugwayDuke

—-> Funny thing, almost all the anti-vaxxers are selling something.

Now do Biv Pharma and Bospitals and Doctors!


99 posted on 11/22/2023 7:07:06 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅MAGADONIAN⚔️)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion wrote: “Now do Biv Pharma and Bospitals and Doctors!”

Those actually help people fight covid. Those grifters selling snake oil only help themselves.


100 posted on 11/22/2023 7:23:04 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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