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Update from Ukraine | Successful Landing operation on the South | Ukraine is Ready for Big move
Youtube.com ^ | 11-17-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 11/17/2023 6:20:08 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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Ukrainians SECURE MORE BRIDGEHEADS. Putin READY TO SACRIFICE Everyone. Russians DESTROY THEIR TANKS
The Russian Dude
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13:16 Minutes
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Putin is ready to sacrifice everyone next month. He needs a victory before the end of the year. Ukrainian marines secured more bridgeheads over Dnipro and eliminated 3,343 Russians. Russians voluntarily destroy their own tanks. Modern Ukrainian drone is better than expected. Battle Babushkas beg Putin to rule over them forever and do a ridiculous dance in the end.

0:00 In today’s episode
0:40 Battle Babushkas beg Putin to rule over them
1:17 Putin is ready to sacrifice everyone next month
5:28 Ukrainian marines secured more bridgeheads
9:18 Russians voluntarily destroy their own tanks


61 posted on 11/18/2023 6:50:33 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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Reverend Mother: Your beloved Denys the Menys has a lot of company. A lot of men don['t want to die in the Zelenski fiasco.

Published one day ago, BBC reporting:

Ukrainian men flee the draft in their thousands

Nearly 20,000 men have fled Ukraine since the beginning of the war to avoid being drafted, the BBC has discovered.

Some have swum dangerous rivers to leave the country. Others have simply walked out under cover of darkness.

Another 21,113 men attempted to flee but were caught by the Ukrainian authorities, Kyiv confirmed.

After Russia's invasion, most men aged 18-60 were banned from leaving. But data obtained by the BBC reveals dozens have made it out daily.

We have spoken to several men who have escaped in order to join family abroad, study, or simply make a living.

"What am I supposed to do [in Ukraine]?" one man, Yevgeny, said. "Not everyone is a warrior… you don't need to keep the whole country locked up. You can't lump everyone together like they did in the Soviet Union."

The BBC has established - by requesting data of illegal border crossings from neighbouring Romania, Moldova, Poland, Hungary and Slovakia - that 19,740 men illegally crossed into these countries between February 2022 and 31 August 2023.

While we do not know how they escaped, we do know the methods used by the 21,113 caught trying. The majority - 14,313 - were attempting to walk or swim across the border, and the remaining 6,800 relied on fraudulently obtained official paperwork stating fake exemptions such as fabricated illnesses, the Ukrainian authorities said.

Those who are excluded from conscription include men with medical issues, those with caring responsibilities, and fathers to three or more children.

Many have died trying to flee Ukraine by swimming the unpredictable Tisa River

In August, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called out the "corrupt decisions" made by the country's medical military commissions, which he said had resulted in a ten-fold increase in exemptions since February 2022. He announced that all regional officials in charge of military conscription had been removed, and more than 30 people faced criminal charges.

The president's parliamentary representative, Fedir Venislavskyi, acknowledged to the BBC that the problem was serious.

"The government realises that this phenomenon is not isolated and that it is widespread. But unfortunately, I would emphasise that corruption is very resilient," he said - adding that Ukraine was doing "everything possible to keep the number of corruption cases to a minimum".

Mr Venislavskyi said the number of men who had left or had tried to leave was having no impact on the war effort.

"I am convinced that the resilience and readiness of Ukrainians to defend their independence, sovereignty and freedom is 95-99%," Mr Venislavskyi told the BBC.

"Those who try to avoid mobilisation are about 1-5%. They are definitely not critical to the defence of Ukraine." He said there were no plans to radically increase the number of those eligible for mobilisation.

The 40,000-plus number of men who have fled, or tried to flee, could represent a significant proportion of the men Ukraine needs to replenish its army. In August, US officials estimated the Ukrainian military death toll to be up to 70,000 - although Kyiv won't give a figure.

The country also does not release official figures on the size of its army. But the new Defence Minister, Rustem Umerov, told the Yalta European Strategy forum in September that there are more than 800,000 in the Ukrainian armed forces.

Some of the escapes have been dramatic.

One video shows a man swimming across the Dniester River towards Moldova, with Moldovan border guards urging him across to safety. Another shows the potentially fatal consequences - bodies of men being pulled ashore, having drowned trying to cross the Tisa River between Ukraine and Romania.

But Yevgeny, a construction worker from Kyiv who we met in a Moldovan immigration centre, said he simply walked across that country's border - the most popular route out, our figures suggest. It is then relatively straightforward for escapees of the war to claim asylum.

Yevgeny had felt trapped in Ukraine he told us - younger men and those with military experience had been called up for conscription first.

It had been difficult for him in the meantime to find a well-paying job, "because everything is geared towards the war" and yet "electricity, fuel - everything's become more expensive".

After being processed by the Moldovan police, he applied for asylum - something that must be done within 24 hours of entering the country to avoid a criminal record.

Ukraine's draft dodgers

Thousands of Ukrainian men have joined the call to fight for their country since Russia's invasion in February last year. But what of those who decided military service was not for them?

It was at the same asylum and immigration centre that we met Erik, a 26-year-old musician from Kharkiv, who says he crossed over to Moldova by walking across the plains of Moldova's breakaway Transnistria region and then swimming across a river.

While fake exemptions may be possible to get hold of, Erik's experience suggests genuine paperwork may prove more difficult to get.

Following complex abdominal surgery for peritonitis when he was younger, Erik says he needs to follow a special diet which precludes him from serving in the army. But he says when war broke out it proved impossible to get a medical exemption certificate.

"They pass the responsibility from one department to another: 'Go here, go there.' I spent half a year trying to get a certificate [to prove] that I was unfit, despite having all the tests in my hands. Eventually my patience ran out."

Erik eventually made it to the US, where he was reunited with his wife and their four-year-old daughter.

Another man, who we are calling Vlad, did manage to get hold of a valid exemption - but says he could then not get the border guards to take it seriously.

He says he was excited to have been accepted on a foreign university course, and had been granted a student permit to leave Ukraine, but soon realised that this was not going to suffice.

"I thought it didn't work out because I got a tricky checkpoint. I went to another one, and another one. They laughed at me and sent me home. I realised that this piece of paper - this 'permission' - is pointless for a border officer, they don't care at all."

Instead Vlad left the country by swimming across the Tisa River into Romania.

Vlad reached the Ukrainian side of the border with the help of a friend, but another man, who we are calling Danilo, says he used the services of someone via Telegram who was organising a crossing of the Tisa.

The messaging app is a popular platform for smugglers to advertise their services, the BBC has established. An undercover reporter working for our investigation, who we are calling Andrey, spent a month corresponding with smugglers, posing as a Ukrainian keen to leave the country.

He discovered at least six Telegram groups - with membership ranging from 100 to several thousand people. He says they offered a range of services, from adding pretend children to his family, to the most expensive option - the medical exemption certificate, known as the "white ticket" which would allow him to leave and return to Ukraine whenever he liked.

He was told it would take up to a week to make, and would cost him about $4,300 (£3,472) - the price included a bribe to the official making the ticket.

Parliamentary representative Mr Venislavskyi told us that the threat posed by fake documentation - and the difficulties in some cases of obtaining real paperwork that is taken seriously by border guards - should be eradicated within the next year or two by a new digitised system.

All those we spoke to had been successful in their attempts to leave the country, but those who are caught by the Ukrainian authorities risk a fine of $92-230, and a prison sentence of up to eight years.

It isn't clear whether those who flee and choose to return to Ukraine in the future might also face retrospective punishment, but Mr Venislavskyi said he didn't believe that would be in the national interest.

Danilo argued that Ukrainians should be allowed to make their own decisions.

"Because I still believe that each person chooses their life's purpose. For some, the meaning is in defending their territories, for others, it's about protecting themselves and their families. Some want to create, build businesses, contribute to the state's economy.

"I believe that no matter what, my role isn't on the battlefield.

He said he hoped that the Ukrainian authorities would encourage those who have left to return when the war ends, rather than punish them.

"Without people - moreover without smart people who earn good money and pay good money to the treasury - it is harder for the state to exist."

With no end in sight to the war with Russia, it is not clear when that issue will become relevant. In the meantime, as this turns into a war of attrition, Ukraine needs all the soldiers it can get.

Free Republic's favorite Ukrainian draft dodger:


Denys "the Menys" Davydov

62 posted on 11/18/2023 6:51:08 AM PST by Vlad0
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Is this another coming offensive action? Because telling everybody it was coming the last time worked out so well


63 posted on 11/18/2023 7:08:53 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare)
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Russian commander who criticized Putin found dead
Kanal13
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11-17-2023 8:00 p.m.
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A former Russian commander who once critizised President Putin for running a “third-rate” air force, has been found dead alongside his wife at their home in the village of Adzhievsky in Stavropol region. According to reports, Lieutenant General Vladimir Sviridov, 68, and his wife Tatyana, 72, had been dead for around a week before their bodies were found on Nov. 15. The Russian Telegram channel Baza said there were no signs of violence and no toxic substances were found in the blood of either victim, according to preliminary tests. “Gas service workers have already taken measurements and no excess of the permissible concentration of harmful substances has been detected,” Baza wrote.

It added: “What caused the death of Vladimir and Tatyana Sviridov is still unknown.” Sviridov was the commander of the 6th Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia from 2005 to 2009 and during the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008. During his time in the position, he complained about the conditions and poor training of Russian pilots. It’s not the first mysterious high-profile death since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

In February, FSB Major General Vladimir Makarov was found shot dead at his home near Moscow in an apparent suicide after being sacked by Putin. And as for Russian businesspeople found dead during the past two years, there are so many that there is a Wikipedia page dedicated to the topic.


64 posted on 11/18/2023 7:18:23 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Very big offensive coming from Youcraines soon.


65 posted on 11/18/2023 7:21:08 AM PST by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Exactly. The purpose of mommy and speedy is to provide links that steer business to Davydov and other Uke profiteers.

It’s all about money.


66 posted on 11/18/2023 7:23:28 AM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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4,337 Ukrainians are in Russian captivity, including 3,574 military personnel, - Ministry of Reintegration
News Censor.NET
17.11.23 13:29
https://censor.net/en/n3456171

There are 4337 people in captivity in Russia, including 3574 military and 763 civilians.

According to Censor.NET, citing the press service of the Ministry for the Reintegration of the Temporarily Occupied Territories, this was discussed at a meeting on the work of the Commission to establish the fact of deprivation of personal liberty as a result of armed aggression against Ukraine, chaired by Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk.

“To date, the commission has held 8 meetings. Based on their results, the fact of deprivation of liberty was established by about 4337 people (3574 military and 763 civilians). Based on the results of the commission’s meetings, the relevant data are entered into the Unified Register of persons in respect of whom the fact of deprivation of personal liberty as a result of armed aggression against Ukraine has been established. The National Information Bureau, which is managed by the Ministry of Reintegration, has been appointed as the administrator of this Register,” the statement said.

Based on the results of the work of this body, the Ministry of Reintegration pays one-time and annual state financial assistance.

Since the beginning of this year, we have already paid UAH 422 million to those released from captivity, as well as to the families of prisoners of war, civilian hostages, and political prisoners.


67 posted on 11/18/2023 7:25:43 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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RUSSIAN SOLDIERS ARE GETTING DESPERATE ABOUT THE UKRANIAN BRIDGEHEAD IN KHERSON || 2023
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68 posted on 11/18/2023 7:32:31 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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After a 6 and a half hour break, mommy is back at her keyboard banging out volumes of propaganda.

7 days a week, 17+ hours a day...Who does this for free?


69 posted on 11/18/2023 7:51:22 AM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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STREAMED VIDEO LIVE 11-17-2023 10:00 p.m. EST
REPLAY 11-18-2023 11:15 a.m.EST

🔴 RUSSIA LOSES ENTIRE FRONT! Breaking Ukraine War Footage And News With The Enforcer (Day 632)
The Enforcer
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Ukraine has begun to turn the tables on Russian forces near Avdiivka, as the relentless offenisve has left Russian forces seriously weakened and opened them up to Ukrainian counterattacks. Ukraine is working to push the Russians back on all front lines, and is currently pushing still even further into Kherson.

Israeli forces have uncovered more weapons caches inside hosptials within the Gaza Strip, and fighting has continued to increase along the Israeli-Lebanese border.

Streamed live 12 hours ago
Ukraine has begun to turn the tables on Russian forces near Avdiivka, as the relentless offenisve has left Russian forces seriously weakened and opened them up to Ukrainian counterattacks. Ukraine is working to push the Russians back on all front lines, and is currently pushing still even further into Kherson. Israeli forces have uncovered more weapons caches inside hosptials within the Gaza Strip, and fighting has continued to increase along the Israeli-Lebanese border.


70 posted on 11/18/2023 8:07:10 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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Why did you post this to me? I’m not interested in your bs.

Get some sleep mommy. All this vomiting out propaganda must be exhausting.


71 posted on 11/18/2023 8:16:46 AM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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Answer: No one, unless they’re positively nuts.


72 posted on 11/18/2023 8:22:55 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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“Why did you post this to me?”

Just my dedication! Have a great day 🙂


73 posted on 11/18/2023 8:23:04 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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--- "After a 6 and a half hour break, mommy is back at her keyboard banging out volumes of propaganda. 7 days a week, 17+ hours a day...Who does this for free?"

It is an interesting question.

What is demonstrable is that many of her regular sources are not "front-line" journalists, but clever "content creators" uploading notably from the United States, as well as elsewhere in the "not-Ukraine" wide world.

What is additionally demonstrable is that, when the various "content creator" money maker locations are proven to be "not-Ukraine," they appear anyway, because she likes the messages apparently. Such is the nature of bias.

Yet the "narrative" changes. One reads:

"Western officials’ promises of reinvigorating their own defense industries have collided with bureaucratic and supply-chain bottlenecks. Meanwhile, sanctions and export controls have impeded Putin's war effort far less than expected. Russian defense factories are ramping up their output, and Soviet legacy factories are outperforming Western factories when it comes to much-needed items like artillery shells.

"The technocrats responsible for running the Russian economy have proven themselves to be resilient, adaptable, and resourceful. Elevated oil prices, driven in part by close cooperation with Saudi Arabia, are refilling state coffers. Ukraine, by contrast, depends heavily on infusions of Western cash."

It's Time to End Magical Thinking About Russia's Defeat Wall Street Journal, 16 November 2023

Seems that the "official" Wall Street Journal is now turning to a new narrative.

The reality for me is something closer to our USA....

Debt Clock

Federal Budget Deficit Grew to $2 Trillion in FY 2023 Tax Foundation, 12 October 2023

U.S. Credit Rating Changed From ‘Stable’ To ‘Negative’ As National Debt Balloons Daily Wire, 11 November 2023


74 posted on 11/18/2023 9:54:51 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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What a shame Russia/Putin care so little for their own troops they equip them so poorly. Of course, if they really cared for their people, they would not be in this NOT-war in the first place.


75 posted on 11/18/2023 10:53:25 AM PST by gleeaikin ( Question authority)
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If Mexico decided to form a military alliance with China and started a massive military build-up, including discussions to put Chinese "Missile Defense" missiles in Baja, Sonora, Chinuahua, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas would the USA stand by and do nothing?

If we explained to the Mexicans over and over that we didn't appreciate them putting our biggest adversary's giant military on our border, would we just say "oh well?".

We have history as a guide: the Cuban Missile Crisis happened.

76 posted on 11/18/2023 11:20:29 AM PST by Vlad0
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It’s obvious that many Zeepers don’t know history.


77 posted on 11/18/2023 11:39:52 AM PST by bimboeruption (Trump = The best President since Washington. )
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78 posted on 11/18/2023 12:13:45 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bimboeruption
7 days a week, 17+ hours a day...Who does this for free?

And they’ll insist that they’re not being paid.

Even *with* pay, that level of obsession is in the looney-tunes category.

When I worked over in the Sandbox for very good pay, I worked long hours, but even those didn’t match her 7 day week, 14-17 hours a day, nonstop. And I got R&R breaks. I never see a break in the daily, almost continuous propaganda spread here.

79 posted on 11/18/2023 12:14:38 PM PST by Allegra (<I>Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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80 posted on 11/18/2023 1:14:20 PM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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