Posted on 11/10/2023 9:35:55 PM PST by cba123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdumwliscIc
Youtube, about battery range, for new battery cars.
(Range keeps increasing, cost keeps dropping, they keep getting lighter, and now you start to see COMPETITION in the market to fix batteries, rather than replacing the whole battery rig.)
Cheaper, and cheaper.
Anyone who signs on to the EV concept is a brainwashed idiot. The government will never let us produce enough power to support them all. Choice will be have power for homes or have power for all the cars. There is not and will never be enough power for both.
but.... unlike EV, a $20 fire extinguisher from walmart will put that fire out.
“Fact check”? sounds like propaganda. Raising the BS flag.
EVs suck and are worthless to 90% on Americans. They’re incapable of realistic travel for people with an actual life and a need to be somewhere quick. They’re good for city life and that’s where they belong...with liberals.
How do you 'almost' have a fire with gasoline? You either have a fire or you don't. I think your new handle on FR will be VietGator. VG for short.
It was leaking gas out of the carborator, right out into the engine.
How many decades ago did this 'almost' event happen? I'm guessing it's an ESL blunder but Carbs and fuel injectors are designed to 'leak' gas into the engine.
I asked you on one of your other EV threads to explain your financial incentive for pushing commie EVs on the US. In fact I asked you several times and all I got back was gaslighting. When you did finally answer, your reply was you had no incentive, yet you come back hard selling. No one hard sells this garbage without some incentive.
Cheaper and cheaper, huh?
How many more decades will it take to be competitive with gasoline and diesel?
One day, we will run out of moderately priced, and hugely convenient, hydrocarbons.
But, not today.
Tell me why half our population wants to enslave the other half when there is no personal gain for doing so
Envy and jealousy.
If I can’t have or don’t have or don’t want to have, you can’t won’t have either.
Don’t worry. The infrastructure will never be up to the task.
Before long people will realize a copper mine is much worse then a oil well.
Will it matter. Probably not.
I believe that's a legitimate concern. And I say that as an EV owner who charges it at home for about 16K miles of the 28K miles we put on it in the past 12 months.
But just so you know that not everybody will have that problem, here are the real-world numbers from my grid interaction.
4,343 kWh: that's the total kWh's I've pulled from the grid my past 12 months even fighting the Alabama summer (and last December's cold snap).
16,356 kWh: that's the total kWh's I pulled from the grid in the 12 months leading to before I went solar in May 2021. Back then I also had a natural gas bill and I also paid for a lot of gasoline at the pump (drove nothing but ICE cars then).
See the difference? Even though my home is now all-electric (I replaced my two nat gas appliances in fall of 2021) and even though most of our driving is in an EV which we charge mostly at home (when it was time to replace my wife's old used ICE crossover in summer of 2022 we replaced it with an EV crossover and do most of our driving in it). Thus we depend on power more than ever yet we depend on the grid less than before. For the times an EV won't cut it (including if the Dims make the grid unreliable during the few times I need the grid), we have an ICE pickup.
I wish I could drill and refine my own oil to make my own gasoline. I like ICE cars. But I can't be mainly energy independent with ICE cars. I can, however, produce most of my power on my own with solar. An EV extends the use of that free power out onto the road (at least for local driving and the first X miles of a trip), in our case 16K miles per year. So when the warmageddon cult Dims keep making oil and natural gas harder and harder to come by and more and more expensive to use, I'll feel for my fellow Americans. I can't stand the Dims' control-freak ways. But some of us prepper-minded folks are going EV and solar to insulate our freedom and our finances (often linked) from the stupid energy policies of the Dims.
Throw a steam engine in for real fun.
In fact,bring back the Stanley Steamer.
Steam power generated without the extra power lines!
Most EVs run on steam generated power anyway.
For the record, who manufactured your EV?
There is a tendency among those discussing EV’s to think in terms of totality. of Black and white. The fact is that gradualism is the scope of EV entry into the market. If more generating capacity is required for the support of a growing number of EV’s, the market will provide that increased capacity
Teslas have their perks, but they're very expensive both with upfront cost and repairs.
And in a free market perspective, I wouldn't get an EV unless you drive at least 12K miles per year anyway for the gas and oil change savings to offset costs EV's bring. Tires do wear out faster in EV's, but brake pads wear out almost none (IMHO they offset each other). If Trump gets back in office and we have year 2019 gas prices, then the miles per year are about 15K before you break even with an EV. (If you produce 80% of your power at home like I do, the threshold is about 8K miles per year.)
But that assumes an EV is good for your situation in other ways. (i.e. married and need 2 cars anyway so one can be an EV and one an ICE, don't get an EV as an only car, most of your road trips you'd take the EV on have fast chargers, you can charge at home, you didn't just buy a new car, etc.). Again, from a free market perspective, EV's aren't for everyone. But they fit some use cases better than ICE cars, and in my case they help me be 80% energy independent.
Thanks for that analysis and statement of your experience.
I have no plans for an EV. I own two old and very reliable Gas and Diesel vehicles that may be the last I ever own.
I find the concept of disruption very interesting as a new order is disrupting an old settled order
Consumer Reports sells its ratings
. No one hard sells this garbage without some incentive.
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LOL! Oh man. You just screwed his fact check. I wonder if this is from USA Today’s “illustrious fact checkers”.
For me part of it is not having all of my transportation eggs in one basket. If the Dims disrupt gasoline supply— we have an EV. If the Dims disrupt power supply—we have an ICE pickup. In our case with solar, if the Dims disrupt both power and gasoline we can charge the EV for local driving. Right now we’re 80% power independent through the year on average (buying 20% of our power from the grid, most of which is during the winter months). It’d be cost prohibitive to be off-grid … but can be done if the Dims take it to that point.
Along those lines, I’m starting to think the batteries aren’t going to be main problem for EVs. It’s going to be the infrastructure. The electrical grid will be the choke point if EVs start selling in big numbers.
The question then becomes what will the government (i.e. the Democrats) do about it. There are two scenarios — either Fedgov does nothing and EVs fail to become viable for the mass market (in which case people may be forced onto public transport if ICEs are restricted), or the Democrats turn the need for beefed up electrical infrastructure into a massive New Deal style public works “investment”. I suspect the latter is what would play out.
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