Posted on 11/10/2023 5:16:31 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
The Vatican announced that transgender people can be baptized in the Catholic Church, witnesses at religious weddings, and become godparents on Wednesday, representing the continued liberalization of the Christian denomination under Pope Francis‘s premiership.
The decision, approved by the Pontiff on October 31, was announced in response to six questions sent to the Vatican by Brazilian Bishop Jose Negri of Santo Amaro, who sought clarification regarding LGBT involvement in the church.
“A transgender person, even if they have undergone hormone therapy and sex-reassignment surgery, can receive baptism under the same conditions as other faithful, if there are no situations in which there is a risk of generating a public scandal or disorientation among the faithful,” the Vatican stated.
However, priests may refuse to baptize a transgender person if “there is a danger of scandal, undue legitimisation or disorientation in the educational sphere of the church community.” The church also now permits gay people to be witnesses at Catholic weddings but does not allow them to be godparents to baptized children…
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The core idea of the Trannies is:
“God got it wrong. But I fixed it. I changed my gender to be what God should have done if He hadn’t screwed it up. I’m just lucky that I know more than God.”
And the Catholic Church seems fine with this sort of thinking.
“..Pope Francis‘s premiership...”
🤨
“Transgender” is not a real thing. It is merely transvestites playing dress-up, and engaging in cosplay.
For the more extreme examples, body mutilation, creating an illusion of assumed secondary sexual characteristics, still does not change in any way, shape, form, means or fashion, the basic configuration in every cell of the individual’s body.
XX chromosome count is female, XY chromosome count is male. No amount of weeping, cursing, denial or self-hypnosis will EVER change that configuration.
The Whore of Babylon raises
The Bar yet again...
Trannie Pope coming in the future?
Don’t laugh.
The corruption is that deep.
XX and XY don’t lie
XX and XY don’t lie
I don’t care if you cry
You’ll be what you are until you die
And Catholics claim that Catholicism is the “One True Church”.
It forfeited the right to be called a church a LONG time ago. Like hundreds of years, at least.
And many Catholics will fall for it, believe it and defend it.
I have a feeling Martin Luther got it right about the Catholics. Unfortunately many other Christian churches are headed down Satan’s way too.
"Under the same conditions as other faithful" could mean only if the trans had converted, and aside from the false Catholic gospel not being that of penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith being imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5 in Catholicism is it imagined that the act itself (ex opere operato) of a valid baptism effects regeneration, rendering the baptized inwardly just, and good enough to actually enter Heaven, thus it is assumed that such could go directly to Heaven if they died in that state.
However, since the unholy sinful Adamic nature is all too alive and manifests itself in these "inwardly just" (righteous souls), meaning that unless they died having attained to the level of practical perfection needed, then they are in in need of purification when they die in order to once again become actually good enough to see and be with God:
Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. (CCC 1992)The grace of Christ is the gratuitous gift...infused by the Holy Spirit into our soul to heal it of sin and to sanctify it. It is the sanctifying or deifying grace received in Baptism. (CCC 1999) (
more infants are now saved by baptism than were justified formerly by the active faith of their parents. (Catholic Encyclopedia > Baptism)
By virtue of our apostolic authority, we define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints . . . and other faithful who died after receiving Christ's holy Baptism (provided they were not in need of purification when they died, . . .) have been, are and will be in heaven, in the heavenly Kingdom and celestial paradise with Christ, joined to the company of the holy angels. (CCC 1023)
Yet certain temporal consequences of sin remain in the baptized , such as suffering, illness, death, and such frailties inherent in life as weaknesses of character, and so on, as well as an inclination to sin that Tradition calls concupiscence. .. (CCC 1264)
One "cannot approach God till the purging fire shall have cleansed the stains with which his soul was infested." (Catholic Encyclopedia>Purgatory)
"Every trace of attachment to evil must be eliminated, every imperfection of the soul corrected." Purification must be complete..." "This is exactly what takes place in Purgatory." — John Paul II, Audiences, 1999; http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_04081999.html
"...we will go to Purgatory first, and then to Heaven after we are purged of all selfishness and bad habits and character faults." Peter Kreeft, Because God Is Real: Sixteen Questions, One Answer, p. 224
In addition, the whole premise that suffering itself perfects a person is specious, since testing of character requires being able to choose btwn alternatives, and which this world provides. Thus it is only this world that Scripture peaks of here development of character, such as "Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations." (1 Peter 1:6) The Lord Jesus, in being "made perfect" (Hebrews 2:10) as regards experientially "in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin" (Hebrews 4:15) was subjected to this in the life.
I shall always be CATHOLIC.
And when they get rid of pope frank, I shall return to the Church.
Follow Jesus.
He will never go south on you as Catholicism has, because when Francis dies and they replace him with someone worse or just as bad, then what are you going to do?
I don’t think Pope poofter believes Baptism actually means anything so he would shrug and say why not.
Francis has pulled a beaut, by loading the college of cardinals with like minds. They will elect another marxist to the post
Are trannies banging down church doors in great crowds demanding to be baptized?
Francis is a misguided, emotional, foolish Karen in a pope’s body
It never was the “One True Church,” seeing is a result of progressive deformation, with accretions of distinctive Catholic teachings that - as you well know - are not manifest in the only wholly God-inspired, substantive, authoritative record of what the NT church believed (which is Scripture, in particular Acts through Revelation, which best shows how the NT church understood the gospels)
And contrary to claims of cults, the only one true church which is the body of Christ (Colossians 1:18) to which He is married, (Ephesians 5:25) being the "household of faith," (Galatians 6:10) for it uniquely only and always consists 100% of true believers, and which spiritual body of Christ is what the Spirit baptizes every believer into, (1Co. 12:13) as "living stones" in this "spiritual house," (1 Peter 2:5) while organic fellowships in which they express their faith inevitably become admixtures of wheat and tares, with Catholicism and liberal Protestantism being mostly the latter.
However, some Catholics themselves imagine a popeless mystical church, their Holy Mother Church as being The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church which is spotless, without blemish, absolutely untouched by the unfaithfulness of laity and prelates, and modern popes of the past few decades who allowed a massive wave of debauchery.
Catholicism would need to "get rid of" much more than than her present pope and the college of cardinals of with their feathers - and accept the basic evangelical gospel Peter preached (Acts 10:36-47; Acts 15:7-9) versus her perversion of it - to even be a basically Biblical church.
That horse has left the station.
“A transgender person, even if they have undergone hormone therapy and sex-reassignment surgery, can receive baptism under the same conditions as other faithful, if there are no situations in which there is a risk of generating a public scandal or disorientation among the faithful,” the Vatican stated.
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Are these people so blind they can’t see the very nature of the public scandal and disorientation inherently involved?????
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