Posted on 10/24/2023 6:14:39 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson and his guest, retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, scoffed at the idea that the United States was scoring “moral victories” through its assistance of Israel and suggested that the world’s only Jewish-majority state was committing “war crimes” by bombing Gaza during an episode of the former’s show released on Monday.
After a conversation during which the two commentators argued that wiping out Hamas was an unrealistic goal, they said that the U.S. was hurtling toward war with Iran and bizarrely submitted that Turkey and Russia would be eager to join such a conflict on the side of Iran, Carlson adopted a mockingly inquisitive tone.
“But we’ll be, as we become impoverished and chaotic and subject to these terror attacks, we’ll be winning important moral victories, don’t you think?” he asked.
He continued:
This is the problem with collective punishment. This is the problem with annihilating Gaza and trying to sweep out its population. That’s unacceptable to us as Americans. I don’t think if you sat down any of Israel’s most ardent supporters in the United States and said, ‘Are you willing to trade the lives of several hundred thousand people in Gaza for the lives taken in Israel by Hamas?’ After all, Hamas and Palestinian Jihad were the fighters. They lost 1,500, there were 3,000 involved in the several waves of the attack. They’re dead. Now we’re looking at perhaps 5,000 civilians dead. How many more will we witness? Is that somehow or another justified morally?
So @BasedMikeLee retweets Tucker & Douglas Macgregor talking about how Israel is committing “war crimes” employs “collective punishment, [is]annihilating Gaza & trying to sweep out its population,” before equating the lives of Hamas’s sadistic butchers with the people they killed pic.twitter.com/InzHrKb4fM
— The Meturgeman (@HaMeturgeman) October 24, 2023
It’s unclear what Macgregor has that leads him to believe that all of the terrorists involved in planning, preparing for, and carrying out the October 7 attack on Israel are already dead.
At the outset of the Russian war on Ukraine, Macgregor submitted that Russia would win the war within a couple of weeks. He has also spread Russian propaganda by declaring that Vladimir Putin only invaded because Ukrainian military forces were massing at the Russian border and that the Russian leader has taken pains to avoid kill civilians in Ukraine.
As of July, over 9,000 civilians had been killed, and nearly 16,000 had been injured by Russia in Ukraine. The statistics cited by Macgregor about civilian casualties in Gaza come from Hamas.
Carlson and Macgregor join the ranks of far-left commentators and politicians such as Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, and Mehdi Hasan in suggesting that Israel has committed war crimes in its defensive war against Hamas.
, carlson
“Things like: engineering the 2014 coup in Ukraine...”
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If the CIA helped the Ukrainian people in overthrowing Yanukovych, bully for them. ...
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It not “bully for them.” Unlike Biden, Yanukovitch was at least duly elected. Would you be saying the same thing if the Russians had staged a coup to overthrow the Biden regime? Wouldn’t it be up to Americans to do the overthrowing?
And I thought Tucker was like the second-coming here in FR. He is a low-life attention whore and nothing more.
Need to be realistic here.
“Hamas must be destroyed...”
Not in a lifetime. Hamas is entrenched all over the world, is supported financially and militarily by numerous countries, and has been given power in the Gaza since 2007 with no challenge by the people that live there. They have been building their numbers and capacity since 1987.
“...but it must be destroyed by Israel.”
Israel, by itself, wouldn’t make a dent in it if they turned the whole Gaza Strip into sand. And they just can’t go into countries and kill people to include the US who has them in attendance, also. They have been crossing our borders for years:
You can’t kill it, you can only hope to contain it. It’s way too big and too well controlled to stop, period. Like killing all the mosquitoes in the world to stop malaria and encephalitis. And Hamas has been around for over 40 years and has prospered because everyone helped it from supplying it, condoning it, or ignoring it to protecting it. The check has come due, again.
wy69
I listened to the entire video and cannot imagine a more falsely depicted slant than what’s written above.
I too watched the video. I’m not a regressive so I can’t imagine where they came up with that nonsense.
I heard WWIII and it’s possibility.
Tucker is no Putin lover, he’s anti war, but unfortunately, many on this forum disagree.
If Israel really wanted Hamas destroyed, they can do it. All they need to do is ignore the handwringing of those who wish them dead and delusional, surrender-monkey idiots. If they don't have the will to defeat their evil enemy then they get what they deserve.
Yep, this is why anyone who gets their arguments from Russian propaganda eventually “jumps the shark”, because Russian propaganda is only designed to serve Russia. It has no regard for logical consistency or morality, so it leaves anyone repeating it looking like either a fool or a reprobate, sooner or later.
Screw Ukraine neocon foreigner.
There appears to be a contingent of neocon rabble rousing jar shakers who want there to be endless wars and more dead people.
I am on the side of going after the jar shakers to
stop endless wars and fewer dead people.
That headline, lol. Usually they at least wait till the the lede before coming with the slander.
BS, and Col McGregor is not pro Putin at all.
Quite a nuanced and intellectual take, as befitting your nom de muet.
1. There is zero proof of US involvement despite Russian yammering.
2. Ukraine disposed of the Quisling through parliamentary measures after over 100 protestors were killed.
Again, from Wikipedia:
On 21 February, President Yanukovych and parliament declared 22 and 23 February to be days of mourning “due to the loss of human life as a result of mass disturbances”.
On 22 February, Yanukovych could not be found, and parliament were not informed of his whereabouts. There were unconfirmed media reports that he had flown to Kharkiv (the governor of Kharkiv Oblast at the time, Mykhailo Dobkin, later said Yanukovych was in Kharkiv that day). It was announced that most of the ministers had disappeared, including Interior Minister Zakharchenko, who was reported to have fled to Belarus.
That day, parliament held an emergency session. The Chairman of parliament, Volodymyr Rybak, resigned that morning, citing illness. Parliament then elected Oleksandr Turchynov as Chairman. Under the 2004 Constitution, which parliament had voted to reinstate, the president’s powers would transfer to the Chairman if the president should resign or be unable to fulfill his duties. The former constitution had stated the president’s powers would transfer to the Prime Minister. The acting Prime Minister, Serhiy Arbuzov, was also missing.
In the afternoon, the Rada voted 328–0 (about 73% of the parliament’s 450 members) to remove Yanukovych from his post and to schedule an early presidential election for 25 May. The resolution stated that Yanukovych had withdrawn from fulfilling his constitutional duties, “which threatens the governance of the state, the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine”, and cited “circumstances of extreme urgency”. The resolution to remove Yanukovych was supported by all opposition parties: 86 deputies of Batkivshchyna (Fatherland Party), 41 deputies of the Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform (UDAR), 36 deputies of Svoboda (Freedom Party), 30 deputies of the Communist Party, as well as 99 independents. Furthermore, 36 deputies of Yanukovych’s Party of Regions voted for his removal. There were no votes against. Of the remaining deputies, 115 were absent and 6 did not vote.[217] Parliament did not vote to impeach the president, which would have involved formally charging Yanukovych with a crime, a review of the charge by the Constitutional Court of Ukraine, and a three-fourths majority vote in parliament—at least 338 votes in favor.[218]
Under the 2004 constitution, parliament Chairman Turchynov became acting president. Turchynov claimed that Yanukovych had agreed to resign as president and had recorded a resignation statement, but had changed his mind after consulting with advisers. Yanukovych said he would not resign or leave the country and called parliament’s decisions “illegal”. He added, “The events witnessed by our country and the whole world are an example of a coup d’état”, and compared them to the rise of the Nazi Party in 1930s Germany.
You said to :Miami Red
“And here you are endorsing Biden’s foreign policy.”
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No.
Being against Russia’s illegal and bloody invasion of Ukraine, and being against Russias proxy Islamic friends attacking Israel is neither a Republican or Democrat foreign policy. It’s about normal and evident common sense!
Thats all.
Screw Ukraine Schwab boy.
What does Tucker not understand about Muslims wanting annihilation of all Jews and Israel fighting to make sure that doesn’t happen?
McGregor is not pro-Putin?
You could have fooled me.
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Speaking to Fox News three days after the Ukraine invasion began, Macgregor suggested that the conflict was already nearing an end:
“The battle in eastern Ukraine is really almost over, all of the Ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off. You have a concentration down in the Southeast of 30 or 40,000 of them, and if they don’t surrender in the next 24 hours, I suspect Russia will ultimately annihilate them.”
Amir Weitmann, member of Israel’s ruling Likud Party threatens Russia on live RT
“After we win this war...we will make sure that Ukraine wins...Russia will pay the price...”
Israel had been cautious in criticizing Russia up till now since they know that Hezbollah is at their beck and call.
Putting the interests of the United States of America above those of the captured United States Government-Military-Media regime is a non-starter for advancement.
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