Posted on 10/24/2023 1:22:01 AM PDT by Libloather
Toyota has said it is close to being able to mass manufacture potentially revolutionary solid-state batteries that could offer double the range of existing electric cars.
According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.
They have been presented by experts as a revolutionary technology that could bring EVs into the mainstream.
Switching to an electric vehicle is out of reach for many Americans, experts have warned, as a lack of access to charging ports mean they fear being left stranded in shorter-range vehicles.
The driving range of electric cars varies between models, but is typically around 300 miles.
While solid-state batteries could be revolutionary, they also present challenges for manufacturers. According to Toyota, one of the most significant hurdles is the assembly process, in which layers of cathode and anode cells need to be stacked quickly and precisely.
Claims that Toyota is on the brink of being of being able to mass manufacture solid-state batteries were first published in the Financial Times on Monday.
'In terms of the stacking speed, we are almost there. We are going to roll out bigger volumes and check the quality,' an engineer for the company told the outlet.
Earlier this month, Toyota CEO Koji Sato announced that the firm would partner with major Japanese oil refiner Idemitsu Kosan on the project to manufacture the batteries.
'With repeated efforts involving trial and error, we have succeeded in developing a material that is more stable and less prone to crack,' Sato told reporters in Tokyo during an announcement with Idemitsu.
'The future of mobility lies in the tie-up between the auto and energy sectors, including this innovation hailing from Japan,' he said.
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That’s definitely better, but I need to know where are we going to get all this copper from to electrify society and how it performs when it’s towing a heavy load with headwinds in winter.
A gas vehicle might lose about 10% mileage under the most adverse conditions. What would this vehicle lose under similar conditions?
“Earlier this month, Toyota CEO Koji Sato announced that the firm would partner with major Japanese OIL REFINER Idemitsu Kosan on the project to manufacture the batteries.”
So much for being ‘green’ and ‘saving the planet’.
Another “perpetual motion machine?”
It travels 745 miles on a 10-minute charge?
Does that happen when it’s 20 below zero F. outside?
Will it hold that charge parked outside all night in winter?
Does that happen when it’s 120 F. outside and the air conditioning is running on high?
Does that happen when it’s pulling a trailer?
“According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.”
So at least 5 years away which probably means 8 or more. And by then every car manufacturer will have access to it also.
Range, to me, is much less important than charging speed. I usually stop every couple hundred miles, so if I can recharge that much in 5 to 10 minutes, that’d be fine.
Typical battery right now is around 100kwh.if it has twice the range must be twice the size,200kwh. Charge in 10 minutes,needs 1.2 megawatts of power, about 30 times the maximum household draw.
Who would have thought of combining trial AND error? Brilliant!
Somebody else do the math - - it's 5 AM and I haven't slept a wink.
Interesting to me. Cathie Wood invests so heavily in Tesla because she says their battery technology is far greater than anyone else’s. Toyota seems far greater if this is true
Good luck in having the power generation and grid to support that for vehicles for all of us, as our central planners in DC are forcing upon us too quickly.
~15% of energy used in US is gasoline in the transportation sector. Converting that to electrical will take a crash program to build generation capacity that is not happening. The only thing that could do it is nuclear. Only one state has new plants, GA.
EV breakthrough: Really, really long extension cord connected to a natural gas/coal fired power plant!
Will it hold that charge parked outside all night in winter?
Does that happen when it’s 120 F. outside and the air conditioning is running on high?
"Solid state", so think BIG capacitor or some other non chemical device.
Temperature shouldn't matter much.
But if you've,played with big capacitors, you know what happens when you short them.
What happens in an accident?
Though I will give Toyota much more benefit of the doubt, I do remember the endless threads here about Rossi’s cold fusion reactor being market ready “in a year or two”....
Yeah, bring it or stuff it.
The reason we have high voltage towers dominating the landscape comes down to simple physics. The loss due to resistance is the current squared times the resistance. You minimize that by making the Voltage very high. It is AC voltage because it is much easier to step up or step down AC current.
“Toyota’s EV breakthrough will allow cars to travel 745 miles on a single 10 minute charge - more than DOUBLE the range of most existing electric vehicles”
and i have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn; it’s only slightly used, in great shape, and you can set up your own toll booths ... price is only $1,000.00 [i accept payment only in BitCoin, though]
None for me, thanks. Nobody needs an EV, not even the planet. If you want one though, you can have it. You can try it and see what all the fuss is about, like taking a hit of Ecstasy. You’ll have a residual but still grossly exaggerated empathy towards everything including the bolt of lightning that nearly kills you.
Amps times volts is power used. 1.2 Megawatts at 12 Volts is 100,000 Amps! Your typical wires would not melt , they would vaporize! It would end your battery charge real quick!
No wires involved.
It is going to use lightning bolts to charge in less than 5 seconds.
still not buying one.
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