Posted on 10/21/2023 2:27:25 PM PDT by RandFan
@PaulBrandITV
EXCL: Latest reports that PM will drop conversion therapy ban follow intense lobbying by @miriam_cates who wrote to Tory MPs:
“This Bill will anger our base, split the party and effectively put a Stonewall (gay rights group) charter into law. We have a matter of days to persuade No 10 to pull it.”
MPs opposed will meet on Monday and are trying to see PM face to face to make their concerns heard.
Conservative Party is deeply divided over the matter of banning conversion therapy.
No10 simply say wait for Kings Speech.
(Excerpt) Read more at twitter.com ...
If he bans it, he’s no conservative.
So Prime Minister Sunak can simply wait for King Charlie to demand that parliament criminalize any attempt to talk anyone out of sodomy.
The letter after the name doesn’t mean anything in the UK anymore, either.
Conversion therapy is talked about a lot, but does it really exist, except in a microscopic amount?
Conversion therapy is talked about a lot, but does it really exist, except in a microscopic amount?
Are there any double blind studies on it?
Since King Charles is Muslim, maybe he supports it.
Since King Charles is Muslim, maybe he supports it.
It does exist, as does snake oil, homeopathies and cosmetics that at best aren’t any more effective than the Placebo effect.
I’m personally in two minds about it. I don’t like banning stuff, or overregulation, but you still need redress if you buy something from a complete charlatan that (a) doesn’t work and (b) turns out they knew all along that it didn’t work.
There are three ways to react if 10 million people are harmed by Big Pharma COVID drug side effects:
1. Ask them all to sue individually
2. Rely on class action lawsuits for each drug, which means they’ll do the exact same thing next time there’s a new variant of COVID
3. A government says “you buggers are never going to play that game again.”
It’s been the same old carousel since Thalidomide.
It’s easily the most complicated question for conservatism. As much as you like small government, free enterprise etc., do you really think option 1 is better for an individual citizen than option 2 or option 3?
And conversion therapy is just another snake oil market in a long line of snake oil markets. It shouldn’t be singled out, but if we already know that it is a very unreliable treatment, then it should not be marketed as an effective treatment.
It may be, but do we actually have any double blond studies? People act as if homosexuality is genetic, but we have no scientific evidence that that is true. The reality is we have almost no evidence about why someone is homosexual. We just substitute politics for science.
[The only thing remotely scientific I know of, are studies that find if the mother had previously had several male children before, the odds go up, But really, the evidence there may not be that solid.]
He is no conservative already, that’s not in question.
“And conversion therapy is just another snake oil market in a long line of snake oil markets.”
https://web.archive.org/web/19990506141219/http://narth.com/docs/study.html
But lots of treatments that don’t work are completely legal.
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