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Rishi Sunak's Conservative Party split over proposed conversion therapy ban
twitter/x ^ | Oct 20 | PaulBrandITV

Posted on 10/21/2023 2:27:25 PM PDT by RandFan

@PaulBrandITV

EXCL: Latest reports that PM will drop conversion therapy ban follow intense lobbying by @miriam_cates who wrote to Tory MPs:

“This Bill will anger our base, split the party and effectively put a Stonewall (gay rights group) charter into law. We have a matter of days to persuade No 10 to pull it.”

MPs opposed will meet on Monday and are trying to see PM face to face to make their concerns heard.

Conservative Party is deeply divided over the matter of banning conversion therapy.

No10 simply say wait for Kings Speech.

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KEYWORDS: conversiontherapy; england; homofascism; homosexualagenda; lavendermafia; sunak; tories; uk
This interesting. Will he ban it or not? He's in a bind.
1 posted on 10/21/2023 2:27:25 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

If he bans it, he’s no conservative.


2 posted on 10/21/2023 2:54:30 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: RandFan
No10 simply say wait for Kings Speech.

So Prime Minister Sunak can simply wait for King Charlie to demand that parliament criminalize any attempt to talk anyone out of sodomy.

3 posted on 10/21/2023 2:58:51 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus (I grieve and lament over all the abominations practiced by our society.)
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To: Ge0ffrey

The letter after the name doesn’t mean anything in the UK anymore, either.


4 posted on 10/21/2023 3:01:13 PM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: RandFan

Conversion therapy is talked about a lot, but does it really exist, except in a microscopic amount?


5 posted on 10/21/2023 3:58:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

Conversion therapy is talked about a lot, but does it really exist, except in a microscopic amount?


6 posted on 10/21/2023 3:58:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

Are there any double blind studies on it?


7 posted on 10/21/2023 3:58:42 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

Since King Charles is Muslim, maybe he supports it.


8 posted on 10/21/2023 4:00:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: RandFan

Since King Charles is Muslim, maybe he supports it.


9 posted on 10/21/2023 4:00:08 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

It does exist, as does snake oil, homeopathies and cosmetics that at best aren’t any more effective than the Placebo effect.

I’m personally in two minds about it. I don’t like banning stuff, or overregulation, but you still need redress if you buy something from a complete charlatan that (a) doesn’t work and (b) turns out they knew all along that it didn’t work.

There are three ways to react if 10 million people are harmed by Big Pharma COVID drug side effects:

1. Ask them all to sue individually
2. Rely on class action lawsuits for each drug, which means they’ll do the exact same thing next time there’s a new variant of COVID
3. A government says “you buggers are never going to play that game again.”

It’s been the same old carousel since Thalidomide.

It’s easily the most complicated question for conservatism. As much as you like small government, free enterprise etc., do you really think option 1 is better for an individual citizen than option 2 or option 3?

And conversion therapy is just another snake oil market in a long line of snake oil markets. It shouldn’t be singled out, but if we already know that it is a very unreliable treatment, then it should not be marketed as an effective treatment.


10 posted on 10/21/2023 4:21:09 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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And conversion therapy is just another snake oil market in a long line of snake oil markets.

It may be, but do we actually have any double blond studies? People act as if homosexuality is genetic, but we have no scientific evidence that that is true. The reality is we have almost no evidence about why someone is homosexual. We just substitute politics for science.

[The only thing remotely scientific I know of, are studies that find if the mother had previously had several male children before, the odds go up, But really, the evidence there may not be that solid.]

11 posted on 10/21/2023 5:45:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Ge0ffrey

He is no conservative already, that’s not in question.


12 posted on 10/21/2023 11:01:06 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: MalPearce

“And conversion therapy is just another snake oil market in a long line of snake oil markets.”

https://web.archive.org/web/19990506141219/http://narth.com/docs/study.html


13 posted on 10/22/2023 2:35:26 PM PDT by Ennis85
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To: MalPearce

But lots of treatments that don’t work are completely legal.


14 posted on 10/25/2023 8:52:04 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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