Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia Attacks Again and Fails Again | The most stupid way to attack

Youtube.com ^ | 10-14-2023 | Denys Davydov

[UMCRevMom@aol.com]

Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia Attacks Again and Fails Again | The most stupid way to attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gil7i1Aj3t4

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 11th October 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-595-summary/

*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

https://militaryland.net/maps/

[BroJoeK]

hardspunned: "I don’t believe a word these lying warmongers say but the admin shills on FR take every word from the Biden Junta as gospel.
Here’s the latest narrative."

I watched that clip of Kirby the day he first said it.
So, your point here is what, exactly?

[fieldmarshaldj]

It would be very justly. And then we’d be back to being a Conservative website again, and the good folks that you and your posse have chased off would return once more. Y’know, like it’s supposed to be.

But don’t fret none, you got bazillions of other globalist leftist websites out there you can pollute all day long.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You’re a supporter of Zelensky, yes ?

[BroJoeK]

Rocco DiPippo: "I’ve also offered help to any “brave” FR Youkazoid who wants to get real and go fight for their beloved, hyper-corrupt craphole country of Youcrayne.
No takers so far."

Ukraine, like Israel, has never asked for Americans to do their fighting for them.
They do ask for our support and that depends on our political will, and that battle is being fought right here, right now, right on these threads.

So, it's very easy to understand why our pro-Russian repeater bots are so desperate to remove the discussion from the realm of reasoned facts and logic and into the realm of mindless insults and ridiculous accusations.

You have to use whatever weapons are available, and when facts are not on your side, then you must throw whatever cr*p you can find to see if it sticks or hurts.

I just don't think that's a winning strategy for pro-Russians to use.

[fieldmarshaldj]

We’re here to debunk the globalist lies, since the trolls aren’t being properly zotted.

[fieldmarshaldj]

"Ukraine, like Israel, has never asked for Americans to do their fighting for them."

That earns a full 5-star bull$hit comment.

[BroJoeK]

fieldmarshaldj: "Naah, it’s the warmongering globalist crap that’s gotten old.
If The Ukraine had its act together after 32 years of non-stop incompetent leaders and becoming the most criminal state in Europe, none of this would be happening.
But only the leaders that allowed this to happen are to blame.
At some point, the grown-ups had to step in and put a stop to this insanity.
Now they have."

All of that is lies, total lies from the Russian propaganda lie machine.

Why would anyone ever want to believe such cra*p?

Seriously?

[fieldmarshaldj]

Because it’s 100% true. Not that you’d ever know what was true, since you reflexively post lies. Seriously.

[BroJoeK]

fieldmarshaldj: "Picture it: America, 1936.
Imagine if we had the internet and FR as we do today.
We’d have all these Spanish “Republican” trolls and apologists talking about fighting that “Evil, Fascist Franco !”
And not a one of them would volunteer to travel to Spain to fight for the (Communist) Republican side."

Seriously?
Where is all this cr*p talk coming from?
You know there were thousands of Americans who volunteered for service with the Spanish Republicans, about the same number who've volunteered to serve in Ukraine today.

You know there were about zero Americans who volunteered to fight for the fascists, the same number have volunteered to serve fascist Vlad the Invader's Russia today.

Seriously, why would you even think of such a ridiculous analogy?

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Re: corruption issues continuing for most of this year....

Corruption accusations continue to plague top Zelenskiy aides Reuters, 19 September 2023

Earlier....

Resignations rock Ukraine government amid corruption crackdown UPI, 24 January 2023

President Zelenskyy shakes up Ukraine's Cabinet amid corruption allegations NPR, 24 January 2023

Obviously to some, Reuters, UPI and NPR are apologists for Putin. Or something.

The notion that good versus evil is playing out to some views is clear. That there might be evil versus evil escapes those for whom such a contemplation would damage a Weltanschauung.

[fieldmarshaldj]

The Spanish Republicans were bloodthirsty Communists. They were the ones who were butchering Catholic priests and nuns. They wished to establish a Soviet satellite state in Spain. Fortunately, Franco saved Spain from that horrific fate and vanquished the Communist-Satanic scum.

Thank you for confirming my point exactly, and for confirming you support the Communist side in Spain against the Catholic Freedom Fighters.

This is a Conservative website, it’s not pro-Communist/pro-Globalist. Apparently, you have yet to grasp that fact.

[fieldmarshaldj]

These globalist trolls love the leftist media outlets until they start (accidentally/inadvertently ?) posting truths about the profoundly corrupt and evil dictatorship in the Ukraine under Zelensky.

[BroJoeK]

rxh4n1: "No comparison to those other wars.
This is just another one of those ethnic border wars the Europeans have been having for centuries."

Rubbish, it's the opposite of a "border dispute", it's an all out invasion of conquest and annexation by empire building Old Soviet KGB agent, Vlad the Invader.

It is Ukraine's War of Independence as much as our own from 1775 to 1781.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

When pounding the patriotic flag, as if our United States was ever fully "pure," one forgets when one wishes to forget that no government and no people are ever fully "sinless."

One reads:

Nazism in the Americas Wiki

Hitler's Influence in the US Was Greater Than You May Think Time, 4 October 2018

The long history of American Nazism — and why we can't forget it

Nazi supporters in the U.S. before the war

On this same topic -- National Socialism and its adherents -- one reads"

"Video: Kiev's far-right groups refuse to disarm," 3 April 2014, France 24.
Source: https://www.france24.com/en/20140403-video-kiev-far-right-groups-refuse-stand-down-ukraine-maidan-russia

"Ukraine's Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence." 20 June 2018, Freedom House / Atlantic Council.
Source" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

"Hundreds march in Ukraine in annual tribute to Nazi collaborator," 4 January 2021, Times of Israel.
Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator/

"How the far-right took top posts in Ukraine's power vacuum," 5 March 2014,Channel 14
Source: https://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right

"Nazi symbols, salutes on display at Ukrainian nationalist march," 30 April 2018, Times of Israel
Source: https://www.jta.org/2018/04/29/global/nazi-symbols-salutes-display-ukrainian-nationalist-march

"Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict," 13 December 2014, BBC
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

"Video shows Ukrainian soldiers wearing Nazi symbols," 9 September 2014, The Hill
Source: https://thehill.com/policy/international/217108-ukrainian-soldiers-seen-wearing-gear-displaying-nazi-symbols/

"A far-right battalion has a key role in Ukraine's resistance. Its neo-Nazi history has been exploited by Putin," 31 March 2022, CNN
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/europe/ukraine-azov-movement-far-right-intl-cmd/index.html

"Commentary: Ukraine's neo-Nazi problem," Reuters, 19 March 2018
Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Pardon not making all easy links, but the content is there. One should stand against all authoritarians, all totalitarians, wherever one finds them. Communists as one finds today in the Russian Federation, neo-Nazis in Europe, the Jew-hating militants of Hamas, everywhere.

To play the "my authoritarian isn't as bad as your authoritarian" is a fool's game. Ditto with "my corruption isn't as bad as...."

[fieldmarshaldj]

"It is Ukraine's War of Independence as much as our own from 1775 to 1781."

George Washington never played the piano with his pecker. He also wasn't a puppet for corrupt criminal oligarchs who specialized in child sex trafficking. This stuff you post is 5-star delusional.

[Monterrosa-24]

You resort to idiotic personal attacks on my family because you could not answer my points. My family loves their country. You obviously have no understanding of love of country or patriotism. You have zero real knowledge of Ukraine and zero real knowledge of my family but you speak with the arrogance of the Pharisee and talk down to Ukrainians about their own country.

[OKSooner]

Facts?

I got some facts for you.

Ukraine is not part of the NATO alliance. In fact, Ukraine's ambition to be part of NATO was part of the casus belli for Russia to invade them. The only obligation for America to defend Ukraine is just some hsit that people like Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham have made up.

America is not in a declared state of war with Russia.

At the same time, America IS in a de facto state of war with Russia. Your buddy TimberRattler has made that abundantly clear.

See the dissonance there? You Chickenhawks get to have it both ways; America is at the same time at war with Russia and not at war with Russia. Which totally empowers... who? You Chickenhawks (profiteers, perhaps?), that's who, to control the narrative; we're at war but we're not at war. We turn our hat sideways and we have it both ways, just like the Governor in "Best Little Whorehouse".

Got another fact for you. Poland has wizened up and said "Screw that corrupt g@y ****** *****r Zelensky. If there really is a threat against eastern Europe from Russia, our best best is to cut him and his NON-NATO country off and conserve our resources to defend our own country, which IS in fact a NATO country."

Aaaaaand another fact. Attrition has unfortunately taken its toll in the Ukrainian ranks and Zelensky has now called for the conscription of older men and of college-age girls.

You probably don't have a problem with that at all, though. Someone's got to fight for DEMOCRACY!

Or, pick up your rifle and follow TimberRattler.

[fieldmarshaldj]

You keep making the same ad hominems as if they’re correct. They’re not, and they never have been. You’ve lost the argument. Get over it.