Posted on 10/14/2023 11:02:48 AM PDT by CFW
A grandmother was savagely mauled by three pit bulls while walking down a neighborhood in Austin, Texas.
The brutal attack left Maria Perez, 55, with wounds requiring more than 100 stitches and now the family says they want justice.
On Monday, Perez was taking an evening stroll with her nephew near her home in Round Rock. A neighbor opened their front door and three aggressive pit bulls leaped out. The dogs started running towards Perez and her nephew. The pair were chased down a dead-end street but the nephew was able to leap out of the way, which left the pit bulls fixated on Perez.
"He was able to get away very quickly to come and get my dad," Maria's daughter, Cristina Perez, told the Daily Mail. "And when he got away, the dogs went after her and attacked her."
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"On October 9, officers responded to the 1500 block of Merrell Cove in response to an unprovoked dog attack involving two victims with significant injuries. One victim was walking on the sidewalk when three dogs exited a residence after the front door was left open and attacked her," the statement reads. "In an attempt to help the victim and divert the dogs' attention, a nearby neighbor was also attacked. Both victims were transported to a local hospital for injuries. A seizure warrant was issued, and the three dogs have been taken to the Williamson County Animal Shelter to be quarantined."
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If people stopped posting as a source of amusement, the traffic on FR would drop by about 80%, why do you and others respond, is it a source of amusement or you think your argument is so strong it will change my opinion.
I have claimed most Pit Bull attacks are the result of bad owners, I’ve also said, compare the ownership bad dog owners with bad gun owners and the result often times is the same.
The exact percentage of pitbulls among all dogs owned in the US ranges from a low of 6 to a high of 25, depending on which source is cited. Some of the pro-pitbull crowd likes to distort things, but this range is very reasonable. Very well documented is the percentage of fatalities caused by pit bulls among all dog fatalities in the US. It has consistently been 66% to 70% at least since 2005, and I found one source which went back to 1982. The percentage hasn’t changed much from year to year, though it does seem to be trending upward a bit.
So, the best case is that 66% of all Americans killed by dogs were killed by a breed making up 1/4 of the dog population. The worst case is that 70% of those killed lost their lives due to a breed that’s only 6% of the dogs in the US.
Either way, for many decades the overwhelming majority of dog fatalities are caused each year by pit bulls. In addition, about 2/3 of those fatalities were a member of the family owning the dog.
Also, those defending the breed ALWAYS say it’s because of the owners, the way the dogs were brought up, blah blah blah.
However, I have NEVER, EVER, heard in the followup report after yet another mauled child etc someone sitting around saying “Yessir! That’s mah good ole boy Killer! I done been teaching him to eat people for 5 years, and it’s about dadgum time that he done it! Yee-Haw!”
On the contrary, it’s almost always “I just don’t understand... Tiny has been with us for years, and he’s the gentlest sweetest thing. Just yesterday he was snuggling the baby.” (The same baby that he tore apart 24 hours later.)
The pitbull apologists have a long list of excuses whenever something like this happens. Upbringing, failure to get the dog neutered, some innate “litter jealousy syndrome” (aka inherent violent aggression - point made!), failure to properly restrain the dogs, and even failure for someone physically able to fight them off being present at the scene of the attack, and on and on. (These are actual examples of some of the BS they have spewed after incidents.)
A perfect example of a horrific attack without provocation or “bad upbringing” occurred during the past year in Tennessee. A major, vocal pitbull activist had a wife and two small children. They owned two pit bulls, and had had them for 6-8 years, from when they were very young. They were household dogs. One day while the guy was at work, his wife heard chaos erupt in the next room. She ran in to find the two pits tearing apart her two children, who were around 8 months and 2 years old. She tried to intervene, and the pits turned on her, ripping her up savagely. When first responders arrived, the two children were dead and the mom in critical condition, with a, quote, “uncountable” number of stitches required to close the lacerations all over her face, head, arms, and elsewhere. She lived, but the damage was catastrophic.
I found a detailed follow-up report on this incident, which revealed that one or both of these pits were the XXL variety, and from bloodlines which included dogs that had also killed people. The breeder markets them as “lions on leashes”.
I love dogs, but have no compassion for pit bulls whatsoever. The same inbreeding that gives them their looks also continues the behavioral characteristics for which they were bred.
I don’t want a crystal vase full of nitroglycerin as a room decoration, nor a timber rattlesnake for a pet, nor a pitbull for a dog. All for the same reason.
Anyone who equates a tool which needs a human operator to function with an animal that can act on it’s own volition, is not in very good touch with reality.
“””It’s very weak to accuse someone of something without knowing anything about them.”””
On this topic, we know a lot about you and that you know nothing about it, you have been posting your thinking and lack of knowledge on this thread for hours, very passionately and with great persistence.
Pitbulls are responsible for more reported fatal attacks than any other dog.
Thanks for proving our point.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Pit bull attack leaves Texas grandmother hospitalized with over 100 stitches, srmanuel wrote: |
You’re right about what guns don’t do, but what they are capable of doing when in the hands of irresponsible owners who leave them laying around, they kill children that play with them. I mentioned a mother and daughter on opposites sides of the door, with the family dog maiming and eat flesh from mom's leg. They attack their own family members who had them indoors. If you're saying they should be caged outdoors for safety, I agree with you. Let those willing to take the risks enter the cage. Let other family members live in the house safe from the family 'dog'. Ask yourself, if Pit Bulls were gone tomorrow, what would the people who own them do, live without owning a dog or get some other aggressive breed like a Rottweiler, Malinois, etc....in the hands of irresponsible owners, each of those breeds would be just as big of a problem, do we get rid of them next. Pit bulls are dangerous in both the hands of a loving family with good discipline, and thugs who like them for 'show'. Then consider, if we just banned the AR-15 it wouldn’t hurt anyone, they could still own any other rifle or shotgun. Pit bulls are not a gun, any kind of gun. They are animals too often trusted to live indoors or assumed to have signed the pet-owner contract until some of them start mauling and killing. Thugs always have big agressive dogs. Pit bulls are off the charts on aggression, damage, death and expense. If you look at the history of banning things that become unpopular if often times accomplished nothing and makes the matter worse. It's not just 'unpopularity'; pit bulls do too much damage for no reason. We don't allow people to own lions and tigers without the needed permits for a reason. Zoos have requirements for a reason. 'Caging' lions is safer then letting them roam the neighborhood. |
Even when I occasionally read FR as a boy, I think there were intense pitbull threads. Good grief.
There are always excuses. However, anytime I see a headline regarding a person being mauled by a dog, I’m usually correct when I guess “pit bull” before even reading the article.
It’s not just “bad owners”. I’ve seen mean cantankerous old men with other breeds of dogs that they treated cruelly, but the dog was always sweet and lived a full life without even snapping at anyone. I’ve read stories of pit-bull owners treating their dog like one of the family and the dog is given every comfort and lots of love and care. However, pit-bulls have been bred for fighting and death and you never know when that instinct will kick in. I don’t believe that instinct can be bred out of them at this point.
bttt
Being argumentative and contrary to provoke a reaction is known as *trolling*.
And there we have one by its own admission.
Do you own a gun?
Instinct cannot be trained out of a dog.
Ever see a terrier that doesn't go after rates?
Or a Border Collie that doesn't try to herd everything it sees?
Or a Lab that doesn't LOVE water and retrieving things?
People expect and tolerate that level of instinctual behavior out of other dogs and don't advocate training it out of them, or claim even thinking they can.
Pit lovers seem to think that good training can override the dog's instinctual behavior to kill.
It can't.
the three dogs have been taken to the Williamson County
Animal Shelter to be quarantined.”
...Personally I think they should be put to sleep and then
no one would have to worry about them attackers.
Lions and Tigers are not domesticated animals and have never been so, Pit Bulls have been for as long as I can remember.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree, banning things usually don’t work and often makes things worse.
You pass yourself off as an expert about pit bulls and how if they are trained right they won't snap and yet, by your own admission, don't know what you are talking about.
You are a real piece of work.
What a hypocrite.
This shows that you should never run from a pitbull. You may get mauled anyway, but if you run it only feeds their madness. I stood down a pitbull once and he did stop.Excellent advice. My neighbor's Pit howls at everyone walking by but cowers at me, even with my lap dogs in tow. Reason: it got out once and charged us, but I held my own dogs back and faced it with exaggerated aggression, which scared it away. I learned this when I was a kid and a German Shepherd charged me -- I ran but quickly realized that it was far faster than me, so I turned and went Moses on it. It scampered away. Both our lessons were learned.
multiple guns, what difference does that make, last week I had someone badgering tell them where I live, normally I wouldn’t answer that question because it means nothing to the debate.
I don’t care where you are from, what if any guns you own or any dogs you might have, it adds nothing to the debate.
Appreciate your story.
There are instances, when a pit seeks a human companion; but I have found, that a pit is not as much a dog to have around, as pit fans advertise.
Making a simple scale - a horizontal line about 5 inches long, on paper . . .
I place a grizzly bear at the left end of the scale (”0”) and a golden retriever at the right end of the scale (”5” inches).
I place a pit at the “1.5” inch mark. That is to say, that mentally, the pit thinking - despite appearances - is closer to the bear, than pit fans would like to believe/think.
It is the “snap,” the “sudden,” thing.
Yet, unlike the grizzley, and more like a mountain cat caught in a forest fire, the pit will - as an individual animal - seek human companionship.
If a pit has an individual life in a home of an actual loving family, then a pit may appear and behave closer to center on the scale. But the pit is always, not on the right and at risk of not being right-minded.
There are, still, some rare circumstances where a pit may be found mid-scale - not born with “the grizzley gene.” According to some stories that I have read over the years.
But in general, a pit is a bear, more than a dog. Like the bear, the pit will try to take you from behind.
A friend trained seeing eye dogs. No pits, period, for good reason.
Wrong, no pit bull that has been properly socialized, trained and owned by responsible owners, attack without being provoked.That's an improvable assertion. Try again.
Unless you own one wouldn’t that make you the same thing since what is your experience with Pit Bulls other than what you read.
Personally, I don’t care what dogs you may or may not have it adds nothing to the debate.
I would say probably everyone in this thread advocating the banning of Pit Bulls have never owned one and may not know anyone that does.
How is that any different than what I’m doing.
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