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Tucker argues that this isn't an American war, but an Israeli war. Ben Shapiro responds ...
Twitter/X ^ | Oct 12 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 10/12/2023 10:30:19 AM PDT by RandFan

@ggreenwald

On Monday night, Tucker Carlson argued that while all decent people view Hamas' massacre of civilians with revulsion (and only the most marginalized people have praised it), this is not an American war, but an Israeli war.

Ben Shapiro responded here to that argument

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2statesolution; appeasement; appeasingislam; benshapiro; dumbtuck; firedbyfox; glenngreenwald; hamas; hatefrkeywords; iran; islam; israel; israeliranhamaswar; religionofpeace; tucker; tuckercarlson; tuckerontwitter; waronterror; wot
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To: RandFan

Anyone that thinks we should be doing anything other than cheering for Israelis on the sidelines while the entire third world pours across our southern border is out of their mind.


101 posted on 10/12/2023 11:24:53 AM PDT by Ajnin (Don't be a pansy, embrace the fireball.)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

I’m think battleships and Aircraft carriers

Don’t put words in my mouth


102 posted on 10/12/2023 11:25:06 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪asw)
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To: marcusmaximus

“Tucker refuses to say the words “Terrorist” or “Terrorism”,
Just like all the other terror appeasers.”

That’s not the impression I get of Tucker. Since you seem to be “all in” Lindsey Graham - style with waging war everywhere, every day, perhaps you should take the words of George Washington and his admonition against “Entangling Alliances” You seem to not like that. Why do you hate George Washington so much? Some patriot you pretend to be.

See how that works?

It’s a simple fact that this is Israels War. The only question that remains is to what extent do we get directly involved or not. Then we can decide if we use our influence to keep it from escalating into a multi-front war.

Pointing this stuff out does not make one an appeaser any more than it makes you a George Washington hater. It DOES give you something in common with Lindsey Graham, though. Congratulations on that.


103 posted on 10/12/2023 11:25:23 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: euram

stuff it.
you clearly have plenty of room for it.


104 posted on 10/12/2023 11:26:01 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (utilize leverage at every opportunity.)
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To: RandFan
Actually the Israelis don't want anyone fighting with them in this war. They have stated that they are able and willing to fight this on their own.

The only thing they have asked for is political support from their allies, and probably technology support from the U.S.

105 posted on 10/12/2023 11:26:32 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: RFEngineer

We already used our influence by pouring hundreds of millions to to paloterrorists

FIX IT

MAKE IT RIGHT


106 posted on 10/12/2023 11:27:18 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪asw)
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To: Alberta's Child

***we do have an obligation to stand up to the evil of Islam.***

Islam has been at war with the whole world for the last 1500 years. Only now are we noticing it? They recognize only two positions. Dar al-Islam/Dar al-Harb. The house of Islam and the house of war.


107 posted on 10/12/2023 11:29:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Gaza delenda est)
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To: RFEngineer
words of George Washington and his admonition against “Entangling Alliances” You seem to not like that.

You mean the George Washington who won the War for Independence because we the Treaty of Alliance with France of 1778?

108 posted on 10/12/2023 11:30:06 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: NWFree

So you agree with Tucker then, that this is Israel’s war.

So you bring up a point that we should be more directly involved. That’s a discussion worth having that doesn’t involve calling anyone who thinks it should be discussed names because they don’t exactly agree with every impulse you may have.


109 posted on 10/12/2023 11:31:05 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: NWFree
Thank God you’re not in charge of running like a coward too

You're the one who is supporting the US going to war against these goat fornicating scumbags. Your actions don't match your words because you're just a coward with nothing but words to spend. Put your own life behind your convictions, weasel. Your kind is a dime a dozen. My screen name on this site is probably older than you.

110 posted on 10/12/2023 11:31:17 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: RFEngineer

Tell Tucker to condemn Hamas, condemn Iran and issue a statement of 100% support for Israel.

Why is he so afraid to condemn Hamas and Iran?


111 posted on 10/12/2023 11:32:02 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: tlozo

“You mean the George Washington who won the War for Independence because we the Treaty of Alliance with France of 1778?”

That was a “disentangling alliance”.


112 posted on 10/12/2023 11:32:12 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: marcusmaximus
Tucker refuses to say the words “Terrorist” or “Terrorism”, Just like all the other terror appeasers.

Baloney. I would never use the term "terrorist" to describe the Hamas militants who carried out this attack. They were invaders, pure and simple.

The term "terrorism" actually diminishes the severity of what was done here ... as if this was done by a lone wolf or a small cell of radical Islamic misfits.

"Terrorism" is the word used by duplicitous @ssholes in the U.S. government and media who have no interest in protecting national sovereignty and maintaining secure borders.

113 posted on 10/12/2023 11:32:44 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
OK -- great.

Should I make sure to carry around pesticide or a high-capacity firearm to deal with any "Islam" I might come across today?

114 posted on 10/12/2023 11:34:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Terrorism. Say the word. It’s not that hard and it’s the truth.


115 posted on 10/12/2023 11:35:38 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

I assume he already condemns Hamas and supports Israel.

Why wouldn’t you? Or are you the arbiter of purity in thought and speech?

Saying it’s Israel’s war is not a problem

Argue why we should get further involved in Israels war. Why is that so hard for you?


116 posted on 10/12/2023 11:35:39 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Tucker has not condemned Hamas and Iran. Ever.


117 posted on 10/12/2023 11:37:54 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: MIA_eccl1212

I guess you’re offended by the truth.


118 posted on 10/12/2023 11:39:28 AM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: 9YearLurker

The game is that we ‘give them’ $3 Billion, but the catch is that they MUST buy American made weapons or develop new ones on a 50/50 basis. So in reality, it is a game the US has played for decades with several countries in order to prop up the defense industries. Does anyone really think that we just give over billions to them out of the goodness of our hearts? It is good for Congressmen because it sounds like support, but in reality, who is supported? Israel or the American Defense Industries, or both? Congressional paybacks? Hmmmmm. Foreign aid has always been a US hammer to gain influence. Just like Russia does and China, and Britain, and especially France.


119 posted on 10/12/2023 11:39:46 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: RandFan

Israel has more than enough power at its disposal to wipe out Hamas & Hesbolla without our help and they should do so. Should Iran get involved then we can stick our nose into it. I do have a problem with those that declare themselves dual citizens( this pertains to Israel as well as other countries).If your a citizen of the US that’s it. Ben Shapiro should definitely enlist as he is such a strong spokesman. Israel’s so called elite intel unit, Mossad, dropped the ball on this. It’s about time we dropped kick the UN the hell out of the country. They are nothing more than a propaganda outfit for commies and terrorists. How about this Omar bitch? She should be deported.


120 posted on 10/12/2023 11:39:50 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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