Posted on 10/05/2023 6:00:14 PM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
AYSON, Utah, Oct. 4, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Liberty Safe is announcing the publication of a comprehensive set of consumer privacy protections regarding law enforcement compulsory requests for information, including safe combinations. These policies codify Liberty Safe's position as an industry leader in protecting consumer privacy.
Liberty Safe will only release customer information to law enforcement agencies if all the following conditions are met:
A warrant, subpoena, national security letter, court order or equivalent ("compulsory process") must be provided that is specifically issued to Liberty Safe. For requests for access codes or combinations, the compulsory process must specifically require that Liberty Safe release the combination or access code for a safe identified by its serial number. If these first two conditions are met, the requested customer information must already exist within our system at the time of the request. If a customer has opted out of our retention of this information, we will be unable to comply with the compulsory process. Liberty Safe has a process in place for customers to request the deletion of their code from our records. This process can be accessed at https://www.libertysafe.com/pages/combination-removal
Except where prohibited by law, Liberty Safe will notify customers of any request from a government or law enforcement agency for customer information in advance of our providing it, giving our customer an opportunity to challenge the compulsory process.
In addition to these protections, if Liberty Safe determines that the compulsory process is deficient, Liberty Safe will object, challenge, or reject the request.
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Good reason to stick to mechanical safe locking mechanisms.
No, they need to go bankrupt.
Do I trust Liberty Safe? Oh, about as far as I can throw one.
Isn’t the simplest way for them to rid themselves of the problem by destroying all records of combinations? Leave it to the owner to maintain the combination and to deal with the authorities.
Does it really matter? If the government wants to see what’s in your safe, they’re not going to need the combination to get into it.
Too late. The word got out.
“Your best bet is to hide the safe in a false wall or something.”
Or offsite altogether.
If you can change the combo you should be safe After a change.
But I bet they have the combo it shipped with.
” If a customer has opted out of our retention of this information, we will be unable to comply with the compulsory process. Liberty Safe has a process in place for customers to request the deletion of their code from our records. “
IOW- we can still give your codes to the Feds unless YOU do all the work to delete the codes and YOU say no beforehand.
No, I am not buying Liberty Safes.
I was at a local outfitter’s last week. They had displayed an entire row of Liberty safes in the middle of the store that was completely gone a couple of days later. I didn’t think much of it until I realized what it took to move them all. People are really mad about this and it isn’t going away.
>> Do you trust Liberty Safe?
Nope. Truth be told, I’m now suspicious of EVERY safe maker. Not just gun safes.
If I were in the market for a gun safe I’d look around for a pre-electronic-lock old used safe.
But I have other ideas for storage that aren’t as sore-thumb-obvious as a big ol’ gun safe.
That’s cool. But now I know two things. They keep a backdoor method of entry on file.
And they are owned by libs who give money to people who want to take my guns away.
I hear you. I have some pretty creative ideas even if they ransacked my house they wouldn’t find anything
Feds will demand a backup of their data. Unless their IT dept is really incompetent, they'll have a backup. "When did the customer request the data be erased? Well, we'd like the backup from a week before that."
How hard is it to change your own safe combo, from the factory setting?
Warning.
Moments after posting, I got a call from the FBI.
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