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1 posted on 09/28/2023 5:53:25 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Ping!...................


2 posted on 09/28/2023 5:53:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Take your nattokinase


3 posted on 09/28/2023 5:56:39 AM PDT by struggle
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It’s about time...thanks!


4 posted on 09/28/2023 5:57:00 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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But hey, a lot of drugs got sold, so there is that.


5 posted on 09/28/2023 5:58:07 AM PDT by Obadiah
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I am absolutely certain that statins have been prescribed, because big Pharma makes a shit pot of money from them, so generations of medical students were indoctrinated that statins are critical and failure to prescribe them to a heart attack victim is malpractice. I have almost completely cut mine out, after suffering a heart attack. I used the acid watcher diet for a reflex problem and it resulted in cutting my total cholesterol and a half and my LDL in half. Mainly, I am oh, because it cut the inflammation in my body.


6 posted on 09/28/2023 6:04:30 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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Amen! Let the truth come out about big Pharma and they’re Wicked push to put everyone on drugs. Essentially practicing sorcery


7 posted on 09/28/2023 6:05:30 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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Bookmark.


9 posted on 09/28/2023 6:09:16 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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High levels of Small Particulate LDL (LDL-P) does cause the problems claimed, and you get that from carbohydrates. This is not measured unless specifically requested.

High levels of Overall LDL (simply called “LDL”) only matters if the small particulate level (see above) is high, otherwise not a concern. This is always measured in the Basic Lipid Panel.

Eating meat/eggs (and other ‘naughty’ foods) does NOT increase LDL-P, but often will increase Overall LDL, and since only Overall LDL is measured, doctors have been trained to tell you, without evidence (that being an LDL-P measurement), that high Overall LDL is unhealthy and you need to stop eating meat and eggs, and only eat vegetable and so-called “Healthy Carbs” (which do not exist in the real world).

By the way, the above conforms the Globalist goal of ending Red Meat consumption, due to its impact on Climate Change, so don’t bother expecting the medical community to come to its senses. That’s not permitted.


11 posted on 09/28/2023 6:11:43 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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How your body reacts to cholesterol is the killer. I worked with a guy who had high cholesterol numbers and major plaque issues in his arteries in his 30’s. All hereditary. He was strict SDA so it wasn’t diet.
If you do a statin, you only need a low dose unless you have a genetic problem.


13 posted on 09/28/2023 6:13:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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The doctor tried to get me on statins.

I refused.


14 posted on 09/28/2023 6:13:32 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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Looney alert...Keep eating fried cheese each meal and see what happens.


16 posted on 09/28/2023 6:14:53 AM PDT by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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“Adults over the age of 60 with higher LDL levels generally live longer.”

This is due to the fact that, mentioned earlier in the article, that LDL is REQUIRED for many body functions...so hammering it down with Statins is a blunt instrument that effects the body in many bad ways, some of which are still being discovered.


17 posted on 09/28/2023 6:17:19 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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One thing I often find, is that in studies, data is cherry-picked to give studies the appearances they want to find. That’s BS science.


19 posted on 09/28/2023 6:18:39 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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Eggs are full of nutrients (including cholesterol) that your body needs to function properly. The form that provides the best nutrient absorption is hard boiled. Great on salads or as a stand alone snack.


25 posted on 09/28/2023 6:40:37 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Yes, inflammation is a big determinant of atherosclerosis. That said, cholesterol deposition in the artery wall is a big determinant of vascular inflammation. They're all part of a chronic process that takes years to lead to obstructive arterial disease. To infer that cholesterol does not contribute to atherosclerosis is just plain wrong, and I can cite study after study to validate this point.

Eukaryotic organisms, including human beings, do not have the enzymatic machinery to break down the basic cholesterol molecule. The only way our bodies are capable of eliminating cholesterol is by making it into something else (bile salts, dolichols, mineralocorticoids, steroids, vitamin D, etc.). All of these things made by the cholesterol core molecule are essential to our biological lives, so yes, we need cholesterol.

That said, when cholesterol gets into the artery wall it can't be metabolized there, and ultimately contributes to inflammation - which as stated is a major contributor to atherosclerosis.

The only way to get cholesterol out of the vessel wall is reverse transport, and that involves HDL cholesterol. All cholesterol (ie total, HDL, LDL, VLDL, etc) is exactly the same cholesterol molecule. The difference between HDL and LDL etc is about what is complexed with the cholesterol. Cholesterol doesn't travel in the bloodstream as a naked molecule; it is complexed with proteins and other molecules. The proteins that it is complexed with define what type of cholesterol it is (e.g. HDL, LDL) and where it can bind.

HDL cholesterol doesn't deposit in blood vessels (there aren't receptors for it in the vasculature) and instead picks up cholesterol from peripheral sites and transports it back to the liver - where it can be made into other things. LDL cholesterol does deposit in vessel walls (via LDL and scavenger receptors). So, as some of the studies you cite discuss, the relative levels of HDL and other cholesterol (including LDL) is an important determinant of whether or not you will get vascular disease. A high HDL/LDL ratio favors reverse transport and not vascular deposition. A low HDL/LDL ratio favors deposition in the vasculature and other sites and portends insufficient reverse transport to prevent vascular deposition.

It's more complicated than just this, but don't doubt the role of cholesterol in atherosclerosis. People with familial (genetic) hypercholesterolemia have very high LDL levels and have a 20x greater statistical chance of developing early coronary artery disease.

I didn't write this to argue, but only because I don't want FReepers who read this thread and who have low HDL and high LDL to think that they don't need to worry about this. It matters.

30 posted on 09/28/2023 7:30:49 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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The REAL KILLER is mistaking a blocked artery for “acute Indigestion.”
When I started having stabbing pains in my heart it was considered to be nothing but “Acute Indigestion”. Because the pains continued they ran tests and found I had a major artery in my heart blocked. The one referred to as “The Widow Maker.” Now have a heart stent to go along with my artificial mitral valve.

In looking at the history of my family I noticed quite a few died of “Acute Indigestion.”


31 posted on 09/28/2023 7:41:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session.”)
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Thanks for posting this, Dr. Mercola has some excellent info, altho he pushes his products. His publications make him worth reading, I think.


37 posted on 09/28/2023 8:04:49 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The whole Western world needs Trump leadership.” Nigel Farage, Newsmax, 07/31/2023.)
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Interesting. My cholesterol is statistically perfect. I sit on the bottom line for both levels.

I probably have the worst diet of anyone you would meet. I eat almost no vegetables or fruits. I mostly eat meat and cheese.


44 posted on 09/28/2023 8:30:19 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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Bookmark for later reading.


49 posted on 09/28/2023 10:14:41 AM PDT by AmericanMermaid
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Red, TY for thread ! You post the most interesting things across the spectrum of life. I went to this thread the day you posted it and kept the tab open & saved links in my NOTES oh phone.


74 posted on 10/11/2023 7:12:51 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is ~~. tell the storm how BIG your GOD is! )
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