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Russia's Battlefield Wins Make U.S. Bitter; 'Can't Boost Ukraine's Power By Sprinkling Magic Dust'
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Posted on 09/18/2023 2:10:24 AM PDT by ganeemead

Neocon thinking might be that we need a new hundred years war...


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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“Your kids and mine are deep in debt, and it’s growing rapidly, all the while two non-NATO thugs are duking it out, and we are seeing our kids fall ever deeper in debt ( $254K per taxpayer, in case you won’t look to the debt clock ). Yea, you!”

I have brought that up to several people, usually the pro Ukraine types, and it fails that I NOT get an answer. Do they have any concern at all that we are putting our grandchildren and possibly great grandchildren in debt?
Doesn’t seem to matter to them.


61 posted on 09/18/2023 7:22:55 AM PDT by oldvirginian ("Had I known what the North had in store for us, I would have continued fighting." Gen R E Lee )
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To: ganeemead

Russia’s navy lost three ships last week to a country that doesn’t even have a navy.

Total losers. Just like their delusional supporters.


62 posted on 09/18/2023 7:42:54 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: oldvirginian
--- "Do they have any concern at all that we are putting our grandchildren and possibly great grandchildren in debt? Doesn't seem to matter to them."

I suspect such as these are essentially "ideologically" infected, such that contrary or competing information cannot be dealt with in a cogent manner.

Such as these cannot see the world as it is, and so must cling to some ideological ideation of what "their" world would be if only they fought hard enough for it. This is why successive generations get sucked into the same political games.

Lessons learned are very, very different than lessons spurned.

Our job? Stay the course for us, and walk away from those who demand we adopt their ideation. Their incorrect formulations should result in their own experience of consequences.

If the adage is a bit true that a 'conservative is a liberal who has been mugged', then we must await their mugging, while staying away from those locales where such things occur.

My bride and I are most unsympathetic to the liberal experiencing consequences and complaining about it, but most sympathetic when a dawning occurs, and supportive of the emergence of a new conservative. Best wishes.

63 posted on 09/18/2023 7:43:41 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: srmanuel

None of that has anything to do with our conversation about you making up that fake statement you said was from Pence.

“””We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins”””


64 posted on 09/18/2023 7:44:28 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

It’s impossible to debate with someone who has been shown by multiple people they are wrong, you won’t admit that which is fine, but it’s still true.


65 posted on 09/18/2023 7:46:03 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

You three being unable to read a simple quote has been a mind-blowing thing to watch.


66 posted on 09/18/2023 7:47:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: srmanuel

“””We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins”””

Your claim is false, he didn’t say that.


67 posted on 09/18/2023 7:48:28 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Your reading and comprehension skills are severely lacking, as multiple people have pointed out.


68 posted on 09/18/2023 7:56:05 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: ansel12

Do not ping me again.


69 posted on 09/18/2023 7:58:12 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: srmanuel

Says the guy who sees this “””We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins””” when it doesn’t exist.


70 posted on 09/18/2023 7:58:42 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I try to avoid you but you started posting about me and my posts and I responded to you.


71 posted on 09/18/2023 8:01:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Do not ping me again.


72 posted on 09/18/2023 8:06:37 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Then quit pestering me.


73 posted on 09/18/2023 8:12:21 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

It’s pointless to go on, but I’m right.


74 posted on 09/18/2023 8:12:41 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: ansel12

Do not ping me again.


75 posted on 09/18/2023 8:15:56 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

LOL, Like I said I do try to avoid you but you started posting about me and now you keep pinging me, just leave it alone.


76 posted on 09/18/2023 8:20:37 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: srmanuel

Poland and Ukraine can handle and are handling the incompetent and inferior Russian military


77 posted on 09/18/2023 8:23:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: ansel12

Do not ping me again.


78 posted on 09/18/2023 8:23:46 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: bert

Maybe they can, I don’t want to see it come to that, that same incompetent military still occupies approximately 20% of Ukraine and shows no signs of leaving, despite a much hyped Ukrainian counteroffensive.

That same incompetent military has killed 10s of thousands of Ukrainians and basically destroyed a country.

The much hyped US Military was in Afghanistan for 20 years fighting goat herders, we left and the goat herders are now back and in control.

The point is, be careful what you read and think is true.


79 posted on 09/18/2023 8:29:05 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I see, you launch an attack on me in post 38 and now you are going to keep pinging me over and over and over.


80 posted on 09/18/2023 8:31:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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