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Update from Ukraine | Ruzzian Army Lost Air Defence and Main Radar in Crimea. Andriivka is Liberated
Youtube.com ^ | 9-14-2023 7:30 p.m. EDT | Denys Davydov

Posted on 09/14/2023 6:16:30 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Update from Ukraine | Ruzzian Army Lost Air Defence and Main Radar in Crimea. Andriivka is Liberated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OhBPzgaxbc

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 13th September 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-567-summary/

*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!

https://militaryland.net/maps/


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To: Atomic Vomit

Zelenskyy has nothing to fear. Putin & Biden should be afraid.. very afraid. Both are vulnerable.
Putin bombed Yevgeny Progozhin out of fear for at least such a reason.

Putin “deep state” agents embedded into Ukraine gov’t ran wild with graft & corruption.

Thank heavens Zelenskyy is addressing issue & removing.


61 posted on 09/15/2023 5:59:13 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: popdonnelly; Apparatchik; buwaya; All

ARTICLE.. [Did they forget to remove the tires?]

Russian Su-24 Military Jet Crashes in Southern Russia During Training -TASS
September 12th, 21PM September 12th, 21PM

MOSCOW, Sept 12 (Reuters) - A Russian Su-24 frontline bomber crashed on Tuesday in the southern Volgograd region during a training flight, TASS news agency reported citing the defence ministry.

According to the ministry, the plane was flying without ammunition and crashed in a deserted area.

TASS did not provide further details about the accident, including the fate of the crew. (Reporting by Maxim Rodionov; editing by Jonathan Oatis)


62 posted on 09/15/2023 6:08:55 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: buwaya
So, what else is up Mr. Zinn Aristotle Focault Erdos Frum Adorno Zelensky Einstein Kagan Buwaya?

Read any arcane, impenetrably intellectual, voluminous, horribly boring "deep" tomes recently you'd care to discuss with we mere, uneducated, comic book-reading peasants?

Have you read Genet's recently released posthumous masterpiece, "The Intersection Of the Other With Capitalist Colonialist Masters Of Large Object Insertion?" It has only 314 volumes each with ~800 pages in them so you should be able to get through the whole show within a few days.

I'm dying to hear your take on it!

Zzzzzzzzzzz. . . .

63 posted on 09/15/2023 6:09:10 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Apparatchik; Worldtraveler once upon a time; ransomnote; Right Brother; Atomic Vomit; Allegra
Since I have yet to get a sensible answer from any Youcrayniac to these simple question, I'll ask you: Why are you so madly in love with Youcrayne, one of the most corrupt (if not the most corrupt) nations in Europe? Why are you madly in love with a country that is a child trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering center and a "go to" nation for vile politicians and "elites" like the Bidens, Romneys, Pelosis and Kerrys to launder money in? Why are you rabidly defending a nation whose military is infested with neo-Nazis? Why do you rabidly defend a country led by a corrupt, degenerate, gay-dancing B-grade actor installed by leftists, neocons and globalists; a degenerate who presides over massive corruption at all levels of his government?

Why, in God's name, do you want US taxpayers' hard earned cash being dumped into such a cesspool?

Seriously, I want to know why.

64 posted on 09/15/2023 6:19:53 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: popdonnelly
---- "Well at least Once-upon-a-time has fear for what God will do to Putin & his bloodthirsty perverted Kremlin"

Please note that I did not say that. This devolves to the cheapened level of a BBC tactic of "so what you're saying is...."

Unlike the aging neo-theologian, I have 1) no fear for I trust God implicitly, and more than I trust myself, and therefore 2) refuse thereby to conclude that any of us may foresee what judgments are coming, or to whom as an individual or a nation or a world.

The citation speaks more than intended: In Peter's mouth these words are said, "In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality." Read that again, as partiality is being expressed by someone quoting a verse with purpose to show "partiality."

When a transsexual American Democrat spokesman for Ukraine can invoke "God" as part of an official statement, then one might consider "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Any man. Any nation. Even Russia, Even Ukraine, Even our own United States.

65 posted on 09/15/2023 6:21:44 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Get a load of this...

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2023/09/14/biden-appoints-leftist-billionaire-heiress-with-a-troubling-record-to-rebuild-ukraine-economy-1395992/

Penny Pritzker.


66 posted on 09/15/2023 6:23:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Excellent post at #34 and there’s not a thing you said that’s wrong.

I honestly didn’t think any of the FRUkies would go so far as to defend that dude in a wig hissing his threats.

I give them too much credit.


67 posted on 09/15/2023 6:50:26 AM PDT by Allegra (Free Kiryandil! Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Of course, you need to read “Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity” (A.Sokal) first.

I joke. But seriously,

Zinn (”A Peoples History of the United States”) is pernicious, and is important. Its the most common assigned history of the US all over American academia, down to the high school level in many places. If you want to know how your enemies think, the smarter ones were programmed by Zinn.

Kagan (”The Pelopponesian War”) is wonderful. It takes Thucydides and plops him down in “the rest of the story” (to go all Paul Harvey). Thucydides (”History if the Pelopponesian War”) is a foundational work in military and political history. As a teen, during my military service (ROTC), I carried a copy in my pack, on bivouac. Exhaustion and thirst puts a significant emphasis on Book 7 !

The point of it all is to develop perspective and judgement. We are able to gather piles of information quickly by reading, and if we are going to deal in great affairs, we should be prepared to do so.

I read my children the Iliad and the Odyssey at bedtime (along with a great deal else of course). They all were well advanced over their fellows throughout their education. We are talking magna and summa cum laude here. My daughter, a tech girl, took me to the wonderful Getty Villa in LA a few months ago (go, if you can, it has a huge collection of Greek and Roman art and artifacts) and she was happily translating all the Latin and Greek inscriptions. Makes her old pop proud, she does.

All the characters here complaining about the loss of Western Civ in education probably havent tried to imbue it in their own kids. Light that candle, people.

As for learning from comic books, why not? Back in the day there was a thing called Classics Illustrated. These were comic books that illustrated a classic work of literature. My first Iliad was the Classic Comics version!

The problem with most of the warblers in FR is that they havent even bothered with comic books. With the internet, a lack of education, a lack of research, a lack of depth, is inexcusable. It is lazy, irresponsible, disgusting.


68 posted on 09/15/2023 7:18:44 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Rocco DiPippo; Apparatchik; Worldtraveler once upon a time; ransomnote; Right Brother; ...

Why did Britain and France “love” Czechoslovakia and Poland in 1938-39?

The Czechs were more than halfway to being fascists themselves (their leading party were “National Socialists”, including their President, Edvard Beneš), and Poland was effectively a military dictatorship.

Think.


69 posted on 09/15/2023 7:34:31 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

“As a result, Russians lost the whole S-400 air defense battalion, which costs more than 1.2 billion dollars.”

LOL

“Finally, more information became available about the extent of the damage to the Russian assault landing ship “Misk” that Ukrainians hit yesterday with a Storm Shadow missile. The footage confirms that the top part collapsed and the whole ship was on fire, so repairing it is infeasible.”

LOL


70 posted on 09/15/2023 7:36:59 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; kiryandil
Please note that I did not say that. This devolves to the cheapened level of a BBC tactic of "so what you're saying is...."

The FRUkies are notorious for that. Fellow FReeper kiryandil said it well:
“Amazing how all our posts to these people go through a Slava Ukraini! re-interpretation filter and come out completely different than the way we put them in.” -kiryandil

71 posted on 09/15/2023 7:38:10 AM PDT by Allegra (Free Kiryandil! Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: buwaya
Have no idea why you pinged me with # 69 posted on 9/15/2023, 10:34:31 AM.

My most recent comments on this thread: # 65 posted on 9/15/2023, 9:21:44 AM regarding a theological theme.

Hadn't been in a discussion with you about that. This comment is your squirrel. In those weeds over there. Enjoy.

72 posted on 09/15/2023 7:45:37 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
It's anger and vitriol clearly demonstrated what they really want to do.
73 posted on 09/15/2023 7:50:19 AM PDT by Gaffer ( )
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To: Allegra

Re “re-interpretation filter”.

That is a standard debate rebuttal tactic. A point of fact, or even an argument, is often neutral. Its probative value is in context. Switch the context and it often works just as well for the other side.

Your beef is, if it were uttered in fencing, about the same as complaining about the other guy doing a riposte. It is absurd.


74 posted on 09/15/2023 7:53:16 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Allegra
--- "...re-interpretation filter...."

Good late morning to you. The phrase seems quite apt. "So what you're saying is" is a cheap trick, and when one says in response, "that's not what I'm saying" an interlocutor often tries again a little later.

In this particular case and the one like it as Sarah Ashton-Cirillo invoked "God" but apparently not from the Christian tradition which includes Romans 1, using scriptural passages as if 155mm rounds for firing a salvo is not the most effective form of disputation.

Words have meaning(s). Scriptural exegesis has meaning. Political debate has meaning. With quoted sources and citations. Filtering meaning to 'mean' something else is an old game. And always new to those who are not aware of it as a gambit.

75 posted on 09/15/2023 7:56:30 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Rocco DiPippo; Right Brother; Worldtraveler once upon a time; ransomnote; mass55th; JonPreston; ...

“You know damn well what the tranny freak meant”.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Even though it’s quite difficult to listen to her. We can’t judge her on things she has not said. She never used the word “killing”. Some here have said she had said that. And that is false. We must judge people on facts and real deeds.
You insinuate she committed a “thought-crime”. That is Orwellian, its from the “1984” book.

That being said, and as I said earlier, they made a mistake in putting he/her there as a spokesperson. She has a cringy attitude.

......................................................................................

Then you said:
“So, you agree that “Russian propagandists” should be hunted down and “brought to justice,” eh? Not murderers, not rapists but “propagandists?”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well there are propagandists and and propagandists.... two kinds of propagandists.

Have you ever heard of Joseph Goebels? He was the chief socialist “propagandist” under the third Reich, and Hitler’s right hand.
Goebbels was Hitlers attack dog, he was a massive “fake news generator / propagandist”, which made people hate each others on false grounds to such a degree that it cumulated to mass-murder on an industrial scale.

Goebbels proved to the planet that information and propaganda when turned into a weapon is causing great harm and deaths on a large scale, to say the least... THAT is criminal.

There are for example Russian propagandist in Russia pushing on live Russian TV for the nuking of America, France and UK.
Do you condone that? Have you ever reacted against that?

Those propagandists normalize that idea and are feeding the the Russian public with such mass-murdering crap non-stop. It inevitably creates a very dangerous situation. Those propagandists should indeed be sent to prison. They are not doing “free speech”... They are actually THREATENING to eradicate American citizens by the millions!
Do you condone that?

Threatening with mass-murder by nuking entire countries as Russia is CONSTANTLY doing on Russian TV, is INDEED criminal. Again, those who do that belong to prison.

Also, the deep-state neo-soviet Russian Kremlin-thugs are organizing child-trafficking on Government level by kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian children.
It’s child-trafficking on a military-industrial level.
Will you denounce that child trafficking?

God luck with your sinking Russia and the immoral decadent warmongering crowd running the Kremlin.

You still have time to denounce Russia’s demonic anti-Christian behavior.
Its never too late to wake up.

USA-FRANCE

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The sad legacy of Russian orphans lies behind Putin’s troops kidnapping tens of thousands of Ukrainian children

https://fortune.com/2023/07/07/why-is-russia-kidnapping-ukrainian-children-vladimir-putin-soviet-book-author/


76 posted on 09/15/2023 7:58:38 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
Here's an idea, USA-FRANCE.

I don't care to run in circles with you. Stop pinging me. Period.

77 posted on 09/15/2023 8:02:52 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: USA-FRANCE; Rocco DiPippo; Right Brother; Worldtraveler once upon a time; ransomnote; mass55th

We've sent billions upon billions of dollars to Ukraine since the war started and they still couldn't afford to hire a real woman to play the role of spokesperson for the Ukrainian military in this massive financial scam disguised as a country.

Ukraine is the most corrupt nation… pic.twitter.com/gy2PLPbCn0— Gabe (@GabeZZOZZ) September 15, 2023


78 posted on 09/15/2023 8:06:26 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: buwaya
It is absurd.

No it’s not. The FRUkies do it all the time. You’re saying it’s absurd is just typical FRUkie gaslighting.


79 posted on 09/15/2023 8:16:44 AM PDT by Allegra (Free Kiryandil! Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I was replying to Rocco, to everyone he pinged in his last screed.


80 posted on 09/15/2023 8:19:31 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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