Posted on 09/07/2023 9:15:22 AM PDT by Signalman
With the anniversary of January 6th having passed earlier this month, Donald Trump’s claim that he requested national guard troops ahead of that day has been scrutinized by the so-called “fact checkers” once again. While a number have been published in recent weeks, I’ll be addressing Politifact’s from last year, as I’ve made a habit of specifically going after their godawful “fact checks.”
Sports reporter turned pretend fact checker Tom Kertscher attempted to fact check Donald Trump’s claim that he “requested 10,000 national guard troops for January 6th, which Pelosi denied.” Trump first made the claim during a February 28, 2021 interview on Fox News. When asked if he thought there was anything he could’ve done differently by host Steve Hilton, Trump replied “We said to the Department of Defense, the top person, days before we had the rally … I requested … I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready. They took that number. From what I understand, they gave it to the people at the Capitol, which is controlled by Pelosi. And I heard they rejected it because they didn’t think it would look good. So, you know, that was a big mistake.”
Sportsball’s rebuttal is as follows:
He quotes an article in far-left Vanity Fair quoting then acting defense secretary Christopher Miller met with Trump on the night of January 5th, and Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon planned to deploy to D.C. the next day, but “There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.” He says “a Defense Department spokesman said the department ‘has no record of such an order being given’ by Trump. This quote is anonymous and unsourced, and I cannot find it in any publication besides the PolitiFact article quoting it.
In a February 23, 2021 Senate hearing, former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he met with the former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving (who reports to Pelosi), and former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger, and that he requested the National Guard deploy troops on January 6th. Irving testified that he didn’t “take the discussion as a request,” and that the three men agreed there was no need for troops. Now unlike most of my fact checks of fact checks, this isn’t a case where there’s a clear verdict. In fact, whether or not you believe Trump’s claims boils down to which officials you happen to trust. Kertscher is only quoting those who contradict Trump, but there are others who seconded his claim.
With the anniversary of January 6th having passed earlier this month, Donald Trump’s claim that he requested national guard troops ahead of that day has been scrutinized by the so-called “fact checkers” once again. While a number have been published in recent weeks, I’ll be addressing Politifact’s from last year, as I’ve made a habit of specifically going after their godawful “fact checks.”
Sports reporter turned pretend fact checker Tom Kertscher attempted to fact check Donald Trump’s claim that he “requested 10,000 national guard troops for January 6th, which Pelosi denied.” Trump first made the claim during a February 28, 2021 interview on Fox News. When asked if he thought there was anything he could’ve done differently by host Steve Hilton, Trump replied “We said to the Department of Defense, the top person, days before we had the rally … I requested … I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready. They took that number. From what I understand, they gave it to the people at the Capitol, which is controlled by Pelosi. And I heard they rejected it because they didn’t think it would look good. So, you know, that was a big mistake.”
Sportsball’s rebuttal is as follows:
He quotes an article in far-left Vanity Fair quoting then acting defense secretary Christopher Miller met with Trump on the night of January 5th, and Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon planned to deploy to D.C. the next day, but “There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.” He says “a Defense Department spokesman said the department ‘has no record of such an order being given’ by Trump. This quote is anonymous and unsourced, and I cannot find it in any publication besides the PolitiFact article quoting it. In a February 23, 2021 Senate hearing, former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he met with the former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving (who reports to Pelosi), and former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger, and that he requested the National Guard deploy troops on January 6th. Irving testified that he didn’t “take the discussion as a request,” and that the three men agreed there was no need for troops.
Now unlike most of my fact checks of fact checks, this isn’t a case where there’s a clear verdict. In fact, whether or not you believe Trump’s claims boils down to which officials you happen to trust. Kertscher is only quoting those who contradict Trump, but there are others who seconded his claim.
I am sorry. It’s the same story. This post was meant to spread the word to other sites. But no kidding, all the Jan 6ers should be set free. It wasn’t their fault.
NG units are “special” because the authority is shared with the governor. These units evolved from the state militia. When they were “called up” there was always the issue as to who was actually in charge and were they required to defend other states. Additionally, the states were notoriously bad in keeping the units up to a modern standard (Spanish-American War was the last straw!). The federal government decided something had to be done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903
Some states still have a State Guard that is completely under state authority and cannot leave the state. We don’t have one in WV but in Va where one still exists. They seem to be all about disaster relief and nothing more.
“Nazi Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for 10,000 troops.”
Neither one can place national guard troops in there prior to the insurgency. The legal authority for this assistance is bifurcated. In the event of riots or other civil unrest in the District, D.C. Code § 49–103 allows the mayor to ask the Sec of the army whose authority has been delegated to deploy the DCNG to suppress the disturbance.
The POTUS passed the responsibility of deploying the national guard to the Sec of the Army in January 1949 with Executive Order 10030—Administration and Supervision of the District of Columbia National Guard (Truman) and is, also, defined by D.C. Code § 49–404 and Title 39. But, again, the responsibility of deployment falls under other than those two.
wy69
I believe it descends from Article I Section 8:
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;The mayor of DC is a delegated office that still reports to Congress. Congress can override the city council and the mayor if they stray too far from their delegated powers (like Congress did with DC's crime bill in March 2023).
Bongino states (and I also recall it at the time) that the President can authorize the use of the National Guard but the mayor must request the deployment of the National Guard before they can be mobilized. This is probably an extension of the Posse Comitatus act that prevents using the military for domestic police actions. However, Article IV Section 4 allows for a state (or in this case, a district) to request federal police protection.
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.
So it would have fallen on DC mayor Bowser to request the National Guard (which she expressly denied in writing), and failing that, Congress can step in to do it. Since the Speaker of the House of Representatives is the only Congressional Officer actually enumerated in the Constitution, it would fall to Pelosi to speak for Congress, which is why the Capitol Police falls under the Speaker's jurisdiction.
Pelosi could have spoken for DC and requested a National Guard presence in DC if the mayor of DC refused to do so. She didn't do it.
-PJ
Bump
“He says “a Defense Department spokesman said the department ‘has no record of such an order being given’ by Trump.’
Of course, Trump says he made a REQUEST; he doesn’t say he gave an ORDER. The spokesman says “no record of such an order”. So that statement means jack. The professional liar swapped out terms and gave a non-responsive answer.
In any event, had 10,000 National Guard troops been sent, Pelosi and her media choir would have put Trump on trial for ordering a military coup. It was a rigged game, just like the election.
The National Guard belongs to the Governors until it is federalized, then the President has control.
“The National Guard belongs to the Governors until it is federalized, then the President has control.”
And the POTUS has that power.
January 6th Event = Pelosi Owned 100%
Fact heck complete
I distinctly remember Gen. Milley almost scream, “I will not use American troops against American citizens” in response to Trump’s request. He then Joined Pelosi and agreed to 25,000 NG.
Gen. Milley another owned fish to keep his job he and like him are no service to the country.
That’s correct.
The democrat will not stop.
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