Posted on 09/07/2023 9:15:22 AM PDT by Signalman
With the anniversary of January 6th having passed earlier this month, Donald Trump’s claim that he requested national guard troops ahead of that day has been scrutinized by the so-called “fact checkers” once again. While a number have been published in recent weeks, I’ll be addressing Politifact’s from last year, as I’ve made a habit of specifically going after their godawful “fact checks.”
Sports reporter turned pretend fact checker Tom Kertscher attempted to fact check Donald Trump’s claim that he “requested 10,000 national guard troops for January 6th, which Pelosi denied.” Trump first made the claim during a February 28, 2021 interview on Fox News. When asked if he thought there was anything he could’ve done differently by host Steve Hilton, Trump replied “We said to the Department of Defense, the top person, days before we had the rally … I requested … I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready. They took that number. From what I understand, they gave it to the people at the Capitol, which is controlled by Pelosi. And I heard they rejected it because they didn’t think it would look good. So, you know, that was a big mistake.”
Sportsball’s rebuttal is as follows:
He quotes an article in far-left Vanity Fair quoting then acting defense secretary Christopher Miller met with Trump on the night of January 5th, and Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon planned to deploy to D.C. the next day, but “There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.” He says “a Defense Department spokesman said the department ‘has no record of such an order being given’ by Trump. This quote is anonymous and unsourced, and I cannot find it in any publication besides the PolitiFact article quoting it.
In a February 23, 2021 Senate hearing, former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he met with the former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving (who reports to Pelosi), and former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger, and that he requested the National Guard deploy troops on January 6th. Irving testified that he didn’t “take the discussion as a request,” and that the three men agreed there was no need for troops. Now unlike most of my fact checks of fact checks, this isn’t a case where there’s a clear verdict. In fact, whether or not you believe Trump’s claims boils down to which officials you happen to trust. Kertscher is only quoting those who contradict Trump, but there are others who seconded his claim.
With the anniversary of January 6th having passed earlier this month, Donald Trump’s claim that he requested national guard troops ahead of that day has been scrutinized by the so-called “fact checkers” once again. While a number have been published in recent weeks, I’ll be addressing Politifact’s from last year, as I’ve made a habit of specifically going after their godawful “fact checks.”
Sports reporter turned pretend fact checker Tom Kertscher attempted to fact check Donald Trump’s claim that he “requested 10,000 national guard troops for January 6th, which Pelosi denied.” Trump first made the claim during a February 28, 2021 interview on Fox News. When asked if he thought there was anything he could’ve done differently by host Steve Hilton, Trump replied “We said to the Department of Defense, the top person, days before we had the rally … I requested … I definitely gave the number of 10,000 National Guardsmen, I think you should have 10,000 of the National Guard ready. They took that number. From what I understand, they gave it to the people at the Capitol, which is controlled by Pelosi. And I heard they rejected it because they didn’t think it would look good. So, you know, that was a big mistake.”
Sportsball’s rebuttal is as follows:
He quotes an article in far-left Vanity Fair quoting then acting defense secretary Christopher Miller met with Trump on the night of January 5th, and Trump asked Miller how many troops the Pentagon planned to deploy to D.C. the next day, but “There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.” He says “a Defense Department spokesman said the department ‘has no record of such an order being given’ by Trump. This quote is anonymous and unsourced, and I cannot find it in any publication besides the PolitiFact article quoting it. In a February 23, 2021 Senate hearing, former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund said he met with the former House sergeant-at-arms Paul Irving (who reports to Pelosi), and former Senate sergeant-at-arms Michael Stenger, and that he requested the National Guard deploy troops on January 6th. Irving testified that he didn’t “take the discussion as a request,” and that the three men agreed there was no need for troops.
Now unlike most of my fact checks of fact checks, this isn’t a case where there’s a clear verdict. In fact, whether or not you believe Trump’s claims boils down to which officials you happen to trust. Kertscher is only quoting those who contradict Trump, but there are others who seconded his claim.
Fact check: Trump repeats false claim that Pelosi rejected request for National Guard ahead of Jan. 6
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/12/16/fact-check-no-trump-request-10000-guard-troops-jan-6/8929215002/
never forget the reason for the left’s treason... a peaceful protest to stop the steal
https://rumble.com/v181401-january-6th-rally-2021.html
Nazi Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for 10,000 troops.
She then got 20,000 troops to guard it for her.
Part of any successful coup d’etat is to have control over the military.
Click my screen name for more details on how America was overthrown on J6.
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“Mark Levin stated that using the “Insurrection” clause of the 14th Amendment could not be used against President Trump to bar him from running in 2024”
Well, it should not be able to be used. The Dems will most definitely try to use it, and since there is so much corruption in our government, there is at least some chance they could succeed, even though they should not be able to.
“Nazi Pelosi rejected Trump’s request for 10,000 troops.”
The National Guard as part of the US Army reports to the POTUS.
“There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.”
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Here we go again with “No evidence”
I would not be surprised if the whole Mar-A-Lago raid wasn’t just about fishing for shit to try to gotcha trump with, but also about sequestering information that he could defend himself with.
Of course there is “no evidence”. Prove that you called for the national guard mr.trump -MSM & DNC
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‘Fact Checkers’ are DNC spin-offs.
The democrats know it cannot be used against Trump. It is a fan dance to smear Trump and roil the election.
Through the governors, the President has to “federalize” them first to relieve state control.
“There is no clear evidence that Trump made a request for 10,000 National Guard troops.”
So the government has no evidence it wasn’t and the burden of proof is on them.
I too am a bit confused about how Pelosi fits into this. The President is the C-in-C of the small DC National Guard. He doesn’t need Pelosi’s permission to activate them.
And he doesn’t need Pelosi’s permission to federalize any other Guard force.
But I suppose Pelosi can deny the Guard permission to enter the Capitol grounds. Maybe that’s where the problem is.
“Through the governors, the President has to “federalize” them first to relieve state control.”
After some research I see that congress revoked some powers given to the POTUS.
It now goes back to The Insurrection Act and the constitution.
Regan used those powers to quell a prison riot.
I think in this case He had the authority.
I think you may be close to the truth. She obviously WAS in charge of the Captiol Police, so I don’t know how that flavors everything.
“I too am a bit confused about how Pelosi fits into this. “
Mud slinging. The House Sergent at Arms did eventually call out the NG as things got out of control.
Republics hinted that Pelosi rejected the Guard but never made a formal statement.
I think in that case Reagan used regular Army. They are under his direct authority. Reagan got pushback from the states - Massachusetts (Who else!). When he tried to assign a Mass Guard Unit to Central America. That gave Dukakis and some Congressional Rats an opportunity to preen about “states’ rights”. I think the powers they tried to pull back eventually got eventually shot down in the courts - unconstitutional.
“The democrats know it cannot be used against Trump.”
Umm, the Democrats are charging Trump with “crimes” that happened when Trump was President and enjoying presidential immunity. They “know” they cannot do that too, but they are doing it anyway. They don’t care about the rules anymore. The only rule now is power, who has it, how much they have, and what they can accomplish without anyone being able to stop them.
“I think in that case Reagan used regular Army. They are under his direct authority.”
Yes. I admit ignorance of specific laws but generally the same powered are invoked for either Army or NG units.
Pelosi knew she had plenty of tour guides on the 6th.
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