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Florida utilities charging customers for all expenses on top of charging for the electricity sold to consumers

Posted on 08/26/2023 7:57:06 AM PDT by 4Runner

Energy charge: All the costs, other than fuel, involved in producing and distributing electricity. Fuel charge: This includes the actual cost of fuel used to produce electricity. The company's two largest fuel sources are natural gas and coal.

Then they say they are passing the fuel costs on to the consumer without making a profit on them. Only in Florida could a statement like that to consumers of the product you manufacture not be construed as patronizing, condescending, and blatantly dishonest.

Why would you need to make a profit on your fuel expenses when the consumer is paying the entire fuel expense for you?

When are these utilities going to add a surcharge to Florida electric bills for the salaries and bonuses paid to their executives?

That's an expense of doing business too, isn't it?

Then they say the fuel surcharge for 2023 is to "recoup" fuel expenses that were not recovered for 2022. What the hell does that mean? People not paying their bills?

How about leasing expenses for the fancy building in downtown Tampa where all the TECO executives work? Shouldn't the consumers be paying for that one also?

Florida Public Service Commission--when you file a complaint with them for an outrageous electric bill increase three months in a row, they tell you go back to Tampa Electric and work it out with them.

Your Florida property taxes at work.

Florida. The stupid state.

And you all want DeSantis in the White House?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bills; electric; electricbills; florida
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1 posted on 08/26/2023 7:57:06 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 4Runner

Use more wind and solar.

It’s FREE!


2 posted on 08/26/2023 7:59:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 4Runner

My FPL bill has been skyrocketing, and I suspect a lot of the increases are due to statewide EV charging initiatives.


3 posted on 08/26/2023 8:01:55 AM PDT by FLNittany (Autotune is jealous of Karen Carpenter)
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No worries Rob will get back to FL eventually…


4 posted on 08/26/2023 8:03:04 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: 4Runner

With all the idiots around here going solar and “selling it back to the electric company,” I find it a little suspicious that any of us have to pay for electricity.


5 posted on 08/26/2023 8:03:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Say anything you like. Just don't say anything you don't like." - Old communist proverb.)
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To: 4Runner

Can you contract separately for the energy and delivery in Florida? In Ohio, you can change the energy provider and get a rate per kWh (or hundred cubic feet for gas), but you only have your local utilities which charge a fixed fee per month plus a per unit delivery cost. Never accept the default contract for the energy because it is generally a ripoff rate.


6 posted on 08/26/2023 8:04:15 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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To: 4Runner

Meatball is going to have to pull himself away from sucking the teat in Iowa very soon. An array of potential hurricanes are festering up and some coming his way.


7 posted on 08/26/2023 8:05:23 AM PDT by dforest
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Duke Energy are crooks -fees and taxes have at least doubled in less than a year if not tripled. Whatever government entity permitted all of this, well, no words. Obviously powers in charge of everything don’t have to worry about making ends meet like the common working for a living citizen/slave. We are the new slaves


8 posted on 08/26/2023 8:05:57 AM PDT by dkGba
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To: Paladin2
Mmmmm, I think consumers always cover all costs, including taxes, plus some profit margin. That is how companies remain in business, their employees employed, taxes paid, and owners/stockholders recompensed for their investments.

Economics is only hard for Leftists and Journalists.

9 posted on 08/26/2023 8:06:18 AM PDT by katana
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To: 4Runner

All public utilities do that


10 posted on 08/26/2023 8:10:05 AM PDT by wild74
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To: 4Runner

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11 posted on 08/26/2023 8:10:10 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: katana
Exactly correct.

And those costs keep going up, because the electric companies are forced to subsidize solar power.

The costs imposed by government on the production of power, just keep going up and up and up.

12 posted on 08/26/2023 8:10:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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Use more wind and solar.

It’s FREE!

I missed the sarcasm tag.

13 posted on 08/26/2023 8:12:27 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (If Kitty Genovese had a gun, she’d be in jail today.)
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Takes a lot of money to protect jailbirds mansion in Florida beside DeSantis has good people under him unlike the previous president


14 posted on 08/26/2023 8:13:17 AM PDT by wild74
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I don’t want to pay the cost of generating my electricity.

Somebody call me a WAAAAAAAAHmbulance!!!!!!


15 posted on 08/26/2023 8:15:41 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: KarlInOhio

> In Ohio, you can change the energy provider and get a rate per kWh… <

Same in my state. But many of the alternate providers are legalized scammers.

They do offer energy rates lower than the old utility companies do. That rate might be up to 20% lower. Sound good. Then when the introductory period expires, they jack their rate way up, making them more expensive than the old utility company. It’s legal because alternative company prices aren’t regulated.

A nimble consumer can cancel just before the end of the introductory time period. But good luck getting through to the cancellation department.


16 posted on 08/26/2023 8:17:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real)
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If there was lots of storm damage, yes, they need to recoup those expenses.


17 posted on 08/26/2023 8:18:11 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: wild74

And all business does that.

Expenses are all the costs of doing business.

All expenses are marked up and this is called a profit margin.


18 posted on 08/26/2023 8:24:46 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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Florida utilities charging customers for all expenses on top of charging for the electricity sold to consumers

Well DUH!

Then they say the fuel surcharge for 2023 is to "recoup" fuel expenses that were not recovered for 2022. What the hell does that mean? People not paying their bills?

It probably means that they lost money last year because of some regulation that froze or limited fuel rates to customers.

How about leasing expenses for the fancy building in downtown Tampa where all the TECO executives work? Shouldn't the consumers be paying for that one also?

Consumers are paying for that, obviously.

19 posted on 08/26/2023 8:25:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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“Why would you need to make a profit on your fuel expenses when the consumer is paying the entire fuel expense for you?”

All my customers pay for all the materials expense I spend for their project - plus 25%.

Then they pay the wages and overhead - plus 25%.


20 posted on 08/26/2023 8:31:25 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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