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1 posted on 08/26/2023 7:57:06 AM PDT by 4Runner
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Use more wind and solar.

It’s FREE!


2 posted on 08/26/2023 7:59:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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My FPL bill has been skyrocketing, and I suspect a lot of the increases are due to statewide EV charging initiatives.


3 posted on 08/26/2023 8:01:55 AM PDT by FLNittany (Autotune is jealous of Karen Carpenter)
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No worries Rob will get back to FL eventually…


4 posted on 08/26/2023 8:03:04 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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With all the idiots around here going solar and “selling it back to the electric company,” I find it a little suspicious that any of us have to pay for electricity.


5 posted on 08/26/2023 8:03:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Say anything you like. Just don't say anything you don't like." - Old communist proverb.)
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Can you contract separately for the energy and delivery in Florida? In Ohio, you can change the energy provider and get a rate per kWh (or hundred cubic feet for gas), but you only have your local utilities which charge a fixed fee per month plus a per unit delivery cost. Never accept the default contract for the energy because it is generally a ripoff rate.


6 posted on 08/26/2023 8:04:15 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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Meatball is going to have to pull himself away from sucking the teat in Iowa very soon. An array of potential hurricanes are festering up and some coming his way.


7 posted on 08/26/2023 8:05:23 AM PDT by dforest
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Duke Energy are crooks -fees and taxes have at least doubled in less than a year if not tripled. Whatever government entity permitted all of this, well, no words. Obviously powers in charge of everything don’t have to worry about making ends meet like the common working for a living citizen/slave. We are the new slaves


8 posted on 08/26/2023 8:05:57 AM PDT by dkGba
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All public utilities do that


10 posted on 08/26/2023 8:10:05 AM PDT by wild74
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11 posted on 08/26/2023 8:10:10 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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I don’t want to pay the cost of generating my electricity.

Somebody call me a WAAAAAAAAHmbulance!!!!!!


15 posted on 08/26/2023 8:15:41 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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If there was lots of storm damage, yes, they need to recoup those expenses.


17 posted on 08/26/2023 8:18:11 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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Florida utilities charging customers for all expenses on top of charging for the electricity sold to consumers

Well DUH!

Then they say the fuel surcharge for 2023 is to "recoup" fuel expenses that were not recovered for 2022. What the hell does that mean? People not paying their bills?

It probably means that they lost money last year because of some regulation that froze or limited fuel rates to customers.

How about leasing expenses for the fancy building in downtown Tampa where all the TECO executives work? Shouldn't the consumers be paying for that one also?

Consumers are paying for that, obviously.

19 posted on 08/26/2023 8:25:45 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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“Why would you need to make a profit on your fuel expenses when the consumer is paying the entire fuel expense for you?”

All my customers pay for all the materials expense I spend for their project - plus 25%.

Then they pay the wages and overhead - plus 25%.


20 posted on 08/26/2023 8:31:25 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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Why would you need to make a profit on your fuel expenses when the consumer is paying the entire fuel expense for you?

It’s not profit, it is the implied cost of paying for the fuel and then billing and waiting for all those customers to reimburse. Maybe also storage charges.

21 posted on 08/26/2023 8:33:31 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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Then move.


24 posted on 08/26/2023 8:38:00 AM PDT by Dartoid
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It’s legally allowed to only charge what’s needed, plus a fixed profit margin.

You are paying what is needed.


26 posted on 08/26/2023 8:40:58 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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LOL, can’t speak for DeSantis on this one, but I do know how Texas does it:

1. You draw your power off the Texas Grid.
2. You pay a power company money to replace that power on to the grid.
3. You also pay to have that power delivered to your home.

The first factor (#2) varies by contract type (fixed rate, variable rate, contract duration, renewable content, advertising budget, etc.).

The second factor (#3) varies by your local utility, the guys who string wires and repair hurricane damage. This is still a fixed rate/monopoly system, which I strongly suspect is state regulated.

So you get your combined bill from the supplier (#2), which also includes taxes.

It’s a good system, so far. What’s really nice is that you can lock-in your rates for years (5 years, last time I checked).

For you guys in Texas, this the ONLY site you want to use, as it is the Official Texas Site:

https://www.powertochoose.org/en-us

There are lots of FAKE SITES with similar names (like “Choose Texas Power”) which likely work, but are incomplete and are designed to direct you to certain (more expensive) suppliers...so ignore them.


29 posted on 08/26/2023 8:45:54 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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FPL’s newest scam is the Solar Subscription. This is where you don’t put solar on your house, but instead “join” into a solar farm as your support for solar energy. What crap. Florida lives or dies on cheap electricity and low gas prices. Land booms, like the one going on now eventually bust. When we had nuclear plants and non renewable energy plants, we had surplus power, and would sell it during other states peak demands to keep Florida electricity cheap. not anymore. All hail the Department of No Energy, the solar farms that get rained on regularly, ( oh rain comes from clouds, Florida is evidently not a desert), and if we could harness the wind from political rhetoric, Energy would be plentiful.


30 posted on 08/26/2023 8:48:53 AM PDT by Waverunner
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Florida imports all of its natural gas. They import all of their fuel oil,and gasoline. They import all of their coal. They have shutdown their nuke, half a dozen coal fired power sources, and even canceled a major nuclear energy project.

The Charlie Crist and Ron DeSantis Republicans are fine with that. So is President Trump apparently. He never did anything about all the Obama rules that caused this. You had one job Donald. Kill the CO2 endangerment Finding...but no...you’d rather farmers then our food in to fuel. Stupid.


31 posted on 08/26/2023 8:50:03 AM PDT by I got the rope
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What is Governor Meatball doing about it?


33 posted on 08/26/2023 8:51:08 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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