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1 posted on 08/22/2023 2:02:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Weren’t they ‘tested’, starting some 500 years ago?


2 posted on 08/22/2023 2:03:43 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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With the sails installed, the Pyxis Ocean’s voyage from China to Brazil is predicted to take six weeks. On a traditional voyage powered by fuel alone, the same journey can take anywhere between 20 and 40 days to compete.


Notice what they did there...........................


3 posted on 08/22/2023 2:06:50 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Biden suggests that they travel by train instead.


5 posted on 08/22/2023 2:07:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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Isn’t that special ? As Dana Carvey would ask 30 years ago !!

Columbus did that I think.


8 posted on 08/22/2023 2:10:05 PM PDT by George from New England
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Kon Tiki?


9 posted on 08/22/2023 2:12:45 PM PDT by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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I saw that same picture two decades ago. I believe it was in a Popular Science mag back when they were so concerned about “peak oil.” Nothing is new.


11 posted on 08/22/2023 2:17:26 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe o)
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Here they are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fbfac8pXKc&t=4s


12 posted on 08/22/2023 2:18:24 PM PDT by Rio
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With the sails installed, the Pyxis Ocean’s voyage from China to Brazil is predicted to take six weeks. On a traditional voyage powered by fuel alone, the same journey can take anywhere between 20 and 40 days to compete.

I would expect more precision from the engine driven journey and a greater variability from sails.

Nice change of units to confuse the reader.

14 posted on 08/22/2023 2:19:15 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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These things graces the cover of Popular Science in the Oil Embargo days of the 1970s.

They were stupid then, and they're stupid now.


15 posted on 08/22/2023 2:24:16 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Note: This is a hybrid system...it still has conventional propulsion, as a strictly ‘green’ system is simply not viable. Hybrid systems, when you can use a ‘renewable’ power source to offset petroleum use, as availability allows, may make sense and may actually be achievable. Ultimately, the market will decide this.


18 posted on 08/22/2023 2:31:26 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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Welcome back to the mid 70s.


19 posted on 08/22/2023 2:31:48 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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BTW...I don’t see how they modify container ships for this...the ship is loaded and unloaded from the top, where the sails would normally go.


20 posted on 08/22/2023 2:33:50 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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Wow a wind powered ship what a new idea !!!

Wait what were those sails for on ships for thousands on years ???


23 posted on 08/22/2023 3:05:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Arrg matey. Arrg. Slower ships for plunder...


24 posted on 08/22/2023 3:09:15 PM PDT by Hoboto (I blame Hippies.)
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One of the greatest disadvantages to the sails were when they hit those areas with no wind ... hence the term “dead in the water”. Better have some backup.


25 posted on 08/22/2023 3:31:23 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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One of the greatest disadvantages to the sails were when they hit those areas with no wind ... hence the term “dead in the water”. Better have some backup. Maybe some solar panels that could power some fans to blow on the sails.


26 posted on 08/22/2023 3:32:07 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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I lived on an ex-NSSR search & rescue cutter in Stockholm. Brought her to the US via Arctic Ocean. Intent was to make L. Pepin in Peoples Republic of MN but stayed in FL instead.

“It makes sense to me.

1) It is voluntary
2) It is hybrid. Fall too far behind schedule (like reservation for Panama Canal (read up on the debacle)) and you use the engines
3) 2-tons of fuel per day is significant. I don’t give good damn about CO2 emissions, though a little about sulpher compounds.
4) as long as they allowed for interference with loading and unloading of cargo, and vertical draft in canals (bridges, etc)


I had carefully estimated fuel costs when I was living aboard Skidbladnir in Stockholm harbor. Worrying about VAT vs no VAT, the latest exchange rates between $ US and Swedish Kroner. Estimated burn to west coast of Norway for planned refueling in Stavanger or Stord.

Plus, I had warned the fuel company that I needed to calibrate my tanks’ sight gauges and wanted to pause refueling every 500 liters for 30 sec.


The “best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men gang aft a-gley!! The barge pulls along side about 7:30 AM local, after having topped off the cruise ships just north of me outside the inlet. The fuel was delivered via two-inch-diameter hose. Skidbladnir, being commercial, was built to accept that. But the foam in the sight gauges didn’t settle out in time for me to get useful readings and mark the glasses before the flow began again.

And then I get the bill. A LOT LESS Dane gold than I expected, but it was in x.xx metric tons of diesel!!!! Another damn conversion via TI calculator...”


29 posted on 08/22/2023 4:14:53 PM PDT by NelsTandberg ( )
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For commodities where there is absolutely no rush getting them to their destination (which is rarely if ever the case) this could make sense. But the slower shipping is going to be very costly, way more than a few dozen tons of fuel to move tens of thousands of tons of cargo.


31 posted on 08/22/2023 4:40:46 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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could save up to three tons of fuel every day

How much fuel would this 750-foot ship use ordinarily? What percentage of daily fuel consumption is three tons? Or, looking at it another way, how far would three tons of fuel propel that ship?

Also, what do these sails cost, and how much heavy fuel oil will that amount of money buy?

34 posted on 08/22/2023 4:57:36 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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