Posted on 08/18/2023 5:01:41 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | What happed with the Leopard 2 Tanks on the South? Ukraine goes all in Denys Davy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUDgLLCYvbU
The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the last 48 hours, as of 16th August 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time).
https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-539-summary/
*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!
https://militaryland.net/maps/
Hang the warmongering pervert in his gimp suit and ball gag.
He doesn’t care. Just another globalist warmongering troll.
His post is reasoned and logical, backed up by facts. Yours aren’t.
The interesting thing about an obsession is that it has clear boundaries, and little if any correction. One would think other than one side in an "officially" non-NATO between two non-NATO nations would be of some interest to her, given her still-anonymous public persona on FR as a "rev."
Near to her in more ways than one, a cultural and theological and political war rages, which seems of no interest to her on FR. One reads:
"Florida's United Methodist Church Conference Approves 46 More Disaffiliations"Given the clear war between elements in her own local church, and that a subset of the larger war throughout an entire denomination, and that yet a subset of the entire "Roman 1" problem for Christendom throughout the Western world, and that a subset of the larger societal ruptures afflicting this world, this seems far less important than her obsession with one Swiss-resident vlogger to her "give us our daily thread, amen™," with which she begins to "pray."
Source: https://religionunplugged.com/news/2023/8/14/florida-conference-of-the-united-methodist-church-approves-46-more-disaffiliations"Florida Conference approves disaffiliation for 55 churches"
Source: https://www.flumc.org/newsdetail/florida-conference-approves-disaffiliation-for-55-churches-17403110
Your data about Denys Davydov is generally accurate, though verifying his actual age is difficult, at this time. I'm working on it.....
In police work as in psychiatry as in intelligence gathering, constructing a profile is a matter of patient observation. Some profiles are clarifying.
A pleasant Saturday to you.
The worldwide game of geopolitics is clarifying, and the neo-con/neo-lib voices are contributing to sullying this wonderful nation's reputation with "do as we say, or we will destroy" by everything from war materiel and the expenditure of national wealth (adding to debt, of course), to color revolutions (an obvious and openly stated stratagem, as Obama spoke of them), and the seeming punishment of economic sanctions, the latter seeming to be harming a number of nations with those pesky "unintended" consequences.
It seems wise to examine the use of words, for to "use" another nation for war against a third, while 1) not declaring war, 2) not investing one's own men into war while others are, and 3) speaking quite openly about it as if to say "see, how clever we are" is a Democrats' and RINOs' game.
Revisiting the language which was presented to you as argument, ""Right now we have the chance to use Ukraine to end it and we need to take that opportunity."
To use Ukraine. This is the substance of the discussion, as has been made by Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Austin, Sullivan, Nuland, Graham, and ....
It is a mark of the sociopath as of the narcissist to assert to speak for others, when they have not elected said sociopath or narcissist" to speak for them.
But one who speaks for others also seems to speak many languages. I speak a few, so that in of itself isn't so unusual. One has seen those who speak Spanish, German and other languages show themselves in this way.
But....
The original post, beginning with a Swiss-resident monetized vlogger, has commented with the following -- which I "cut and paste:"
--- "ВСЕ БУДЕ УКРАЇНА! [ВСЕ БУДЕ УКРАЇНА!]"Reference -- comment #72 of this thread.
So either UMCRevMom@aol.com writes and therefore speaks Ukrainian, or she also cuts and pastes without checking what she cuts and pastes.
Using "translate" in the browser, one finds part of the above message, stated twice for emphasis -- "everything will be Ukrainian."
One wonders, would that "everything" include the Florida Methodist congregations now abandoning their "mother" denomination?
I never said they were going to try to conquer the world even as stupid as they are they know they could not do that (though they would like to) though they want to conquer as much of it as they could. I would rather help Ukraine fight Russia then for us to have to fight them. We need NATO and we need see Russia defeated and out of the equation, hopefully for good.
Right after you go fight for Putin.
“Not my flag
Not my country
Not my problem”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
If France had followed that narrative of yours, America would have lost its war of independence against the British... The Patriots would have lost.
My message is : Allies should always help allies when it comes to fend of tyranny.
Without France, You and I wouldn’t probably be here chatting.
France’s massive help to America:
“Between 1778 and 1782 the French provided supplies, arms and ammunition, uniforms, and, most importantly, troops and naval support to the beleaguered Continental Army. The French navy transported reinforcements, fought off a British fleet, and protected Washington’s forces in Virginia.”
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1776-1783/french-alliance#:~:text=Between%201778%20and%201782%20the,protected%20Washington‘s%20forces%20in%20Virginia.
Everything you type is in absolute opposition to reality and truth. Either you’re a fool or you’re simply lying to yourself and others.
I look forward to Ukrainian patriots taking down their real enemy: Voldemort Zelensky.
Not my war. Apparently you think it’s on Americans to fight. It isn’t. If you feel so strongly, you need to buy your plane ticket to Kiev and sign up with Zelensky’s army or those neo-Nazis supporting him and go show us how it’s done. Otherwise, you’re just a coward demanding others fight their battles, in this case, 16 year old boys. You should be ashamed of yourself.
When are you leaving for Kiev to fight ?
fieldmarshaldj wrote: “You should be ashamed of yourself.”
Actually, he should be ashamed to support or even make excuses for Putin’s terror by ignoring the immorality behind Putin’s actions.
Putin’s evil Ukraine invasion is most of all a war against the civilian population of Ukraine, trying to destroy where they live, kill them, turn them into refugees, or capture them.
All across the southern areas Russian troops have occupied, the Russian military is enforcing use of the Ruble, removing local authorities and installing hand picked collaborators, forcing men into conscription to fight against their Ukrainian brethren. Men that have already experienced that have told how once removed from their families they know their families are essentially hostages and dependent on how they, the men, cooperate with the Russian military.
The point of the Budapest Memorandum:
Ukraine had to give up nuclear weapons for it to become sovereign state and its independent status to be recognized all over the world.
The provisions of the Budapest Memorandum Ukraine is that gave up nuclear weapons to strengthen its independence and preservation of international nuclear non-proliferation regime, BUT IN RETURN received a commitment from signatory states “to hold consultations in case of a situation raising concerns related to these commitments”.
Any fundamental alteration of the Ukrainian external border (accession OR secession) has to be ratified by a majority of states representatives in their capital city. It cannot be allowed to happen by external interference either, i.e. PUTIN.
Of course, as we all know Putin never honors his commitments.
Ukraine keeps making progress
putin/russia keeps being evil
Since you think the US is so effed up, and you love Russia so much, you must move there. They would love to have you, especially if you are military age. You can join Putin’s lame brain army.
I would rather not be fighting anyone, nor sending untold billions of unaccounted taxpayer dollars to fight another proxy war with Russia. We've been fighting proxy wars with them and China since the Korean War, and not one of those wars has stopped the spread of communism to this country. If you can't see what's going on in your own country when it comes to people losing their freedom of speech, elections being stolen, freedom to own weapons, freedom to protect themselves from illegal search and seizure, freedom to live your life the way you want to, not the way the government wants to run it, then you are clearly brainwashed that Ukraine's needs come before this country's. You are watching your country fall apart, and be taken over by individuals who have sold out to China, Iran, and anyone else who will put money in their pockets. And that's people on both sides of the political aisle. Are you that naive, that you can't see the big picture? You are selling America's future down the river over Russia and Ukraine...two corrupt nations. All we're doing is enabling that corruption to continue.
"We need NATO..."
Wrong! NATO needs the U.S. and her money. Not the other way around. Let Europe take care of their own problems for once. We've bailed their arses out twice already. We've got enough problems right here that need fixing, but it won't be done while we're blowing tax dollars on nations we have no national security interests in..
It's not just Democrats getting those kickbacks. Both sides are guilty. What other reason would Rinos like Graham push America's involvement in this war? That's how they put money in their pockets, the pockets of members of their family, and the pockets of their biggest donors.
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