The Knesset should switch the name of Israel to Palestine. The use by Arabs of the name "Palestine" is cultural appropriation, the Jews were called Palestinians before the Arabs

Conservative Papers ^ | 8/7/2023 | EZEQUIEL DOINY

[Ezequiel Doiny]

The Knesset should switch the name of Israel to Palestine. The use by Arabs of the name "Palestine" is cultural appropriation, the Jews were called Palestinians before the Arabs

PLEASE READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE (WITH EVIDENCE) BELOW

https://conservativepapers.com/news/2023/08/18/the-knesset-should-switch-the-name-of-israel-to-palestine-the-use-by-arabs-of-the-name-palestine-is-cult

[no-to-illegals]

Will you please post your entire article ?

[ifinnegan]

It’s your article. Post the whole thing.

[Jim W N]

the Jews were called Palestinians before the Arabs

Boy talk about disinformation. The Jews came into existence through Abraham and Sarah, Isaac, and Jacob 4000 years ago.

The "Palestinians" AKA the Philistines were the age-old enemies of Israel from the time they inherited their Promised Land 3500 years ago.

[Tell It Right]

It's true that the word Palestine was used for Israel before there was such a people that we today call "Palestinians" (old Ottoman Empire refugees who weren't accepted by Jordan and other nations when Israel and other nations were re-created/created from the old OE).

But the word Palestine IIRC was the Romans' word for the area. Asking the Jews to use a term given to them by the Gentiles 2,000 years ago seems a bit strange, especially in light of how it's used today to refer to the local enemies of Israel who insist on pushing the Jews into the sea.

[Lent]

Philistines has nothing to do with the “palestinians”. Genetically or otherwise. The modern notion of “palestinians” is a further bastardization of this notion which was created by the conquering Romans re: Palestine.

Further, it’s modern expresssion is an Arab League exploitation of this anachronistic notion. Screw the notion entirely. And those of the Knesset who support the legitimacy in this notion are reprobates and betrayors of Israel.

[Cold_Red_Steel]

The “Palestinians” are ethnic Jordanians. Yassar Arrafat, the founder of the PLO was an Egyptian who was barred from returning to Egypt due to his crimes of terrorism.

[mountainlion]

The name Palestinian was devised by caesar to insult the Hebrews. He was naming them after an extincet tribe that had been destroyed by king David The philistenes were destroyed.

[jjotto]

Arabic speakers can’t even pronounce Palestine.

‘Falastin’

They order Bitzza.

[Jim W N]

“Philistines has nothing to do with the “palestinians”.”

Au contraire mon ami.

The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era. After Roman times the name had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain; in addition to an area roughly comprising present-day Israel and the West Bank, the mandate included the territory east of the Jordan River now constituting the Hashimite Kingdom of Jordan, which Britain placed under an administration separate from that of Palestine immediately after receiving the mandate for the territory.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine

However you cut it, the claims in the posted article are as “fake” and wrong as ever.

[Renfrew]

Good post. The Israelites never had much to do with the sea, but the Philistines were the people along the coast who sailed and traded.

When the Greeks emerged it was the Philistines which they interacted with, and they gave the name to the whole region, and that spread to the Romans.

The Arabs of the region identify themselves as the descendants of the Canaanites, so it is odd that they have chosen the word Palestinian to describe themselves.

[Cronos]

Modern day Palestinian Arabs have as their ancestors Arabs, Egyptians, Judeans, Samaritans, Arameans, Moabites, Edomites, and yes Philistines.

Modern day Jews have among their ancestors Judeans, Edomites and yes, Philistines.

The Philistines as a nation were absorbed by their neighbours well before the Assyrian conquess of the 8th century BC

[Cronos]

Read my post above.

Philistines, who were never numerous, were assimilated into their neighbours and disappeared as a saratr nation well before the 8th century BC.

Modern day Palestinian Arabs share genes with modern day Jews. The percentage of Philistine ancestry in both is negligible

[Cronos]

There is no such thing as ethnic Jordanian. Jordan didn’t exist as a nation nor a country before 1920. They were Arab tribes of various backgrounds in that area before the British created their Mandate of Transjordan

[Jim W N]

The Jews (Hebrews) originated from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

Some of the Philistines may have been assimilated into the Jewish population - but not the other way around - as other groups over time have also mixed in with part of the Jewish population.

[Cronos]

1. The "Hebrews" were not only "Jews" i.e. Judeans (tribe of Judah) but also the other 11 tribes. These were peoples who weren't 'lost' per se, but
   • Some, like the Benjaminites and Simeonites and some Levites were absorbed into Judea and became "Jews"
     
     
   • Some, like the Danites and Nephthalites were absorbed into the Canaanites (Phoenicians) and Arameans
     
     
   • Others became the sAmaritans (who have the Cohen gene)
     
     
   • Others after deportation were absorbed into the peoples of what is now present day Iraq, Iran and Syria
2. the Jews also assimilated
   • Neighboring semitic peoples like Edomites (Idumeans) - completely and SOME Moabites, Ammonites, Arameans, etc. etc. - remember that people did convert to Judaism or, as in the case of Edomites were forcibly converted
     
     
   • some descendants of Philistines - the consensus is that the Philistines were proto-Greeks related to Pelasgians from the Greek peninsula who spoke an Indo-European tongue

The Philistines were too small in number to assimilate anyone and over time they got assimilated

[Jim W N]

My point better put, is the nation of Israel originated from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Despite the ingress and egress of intermixing of Gentile tribes and nations among Israel, God has miraculously kept them distinct for 4000 years and the whole nation will return soon to Jesus, their Messiah (Revelation Chapter 7).

[Cronos]

well, I apologize, but I do disagree with you on the point about the "whole nation". Let me explain

A large number of 2nd temple Jews became followers of Jesus in the period between 33 AD and 132 AD.

Remember that the "Christians" didn't exist as distinct from "Jews" until after 70 AD (and the destruction of the temple) and that was cemented after the 115-117 AD Kitos War (the 2nd Jewish-Roman war).

The Jesus-movement was a sect of 2nd temple Judaism alongside the Pharisees, Saduccees, Zealots and Essenes

After the destruction of the temple (as prophesied by Jesus in the Olivet discourse, as seen by Daniel in his visions (which completed his visions) and as seen by John - the temple was destroyed to the ground, the stones were torn up), the Saducees disappeared

The Jesus-movement said "Hey, look! Jesus said He would come back in judgement and He did/ He said the temple would be destroyed, and it was. Come, join the continuation of Judaism, the fulfilment of Judaism -- the Jesus movement

The fight-back against the Jesus-movement Judaism was the rabbinical Judaism, a new creation from Pharisee Judaism

But many "Jews" had "become" Christians before the foundation of modern-day Judaism in 70 AD/80 AD

As Paul wrote in the book of the Galatians -->

• 7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham.
  
  
• 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
  
  
• 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[i] meaning one person, who is Christ.
  
  
• 
  29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

[Jim W N]

I’ll go with God’s prophetic promise in Romans 11:26, “And so all Israel will be saved.” (God sees Israel as described in Revelation Chapter 7, Dan being replaced by Manasseh.)