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Kiev troops recruit Kherson residents amid heavy losses — official
Tass ^ | 8/13/23 | Tass

Posted on 08/13/2023 4:57:02 AM PDT by hardspunned

GENICHESK, August 13. /TASS/. The armed forces of Ukraine are sustaining heavy losses during their so-called counteroffensive and are urgently recruiting residents of Kherson and Nikolayev, the head of the Ukraine-controlled Snigirevka district Yuri Barbashov has told TASS.

"According to information obtained from the opposite [Ukrainian] side, the total losses sustained during the counteroffensive are estimated in private conversations at 48,000 people for the entire frontline," Barbashov said. "The likelihood of surviving at least three days on the frontline is estimated as minimal."

(Excerpt) Read more at tass.com ...


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This is from Tass and should be considered with a heavy dose of salt. I pay little attention to the day to day maneuver and battle. For those who do immerse themselves in these matters, what’s your estimate on the casualties related to the counteroffensive. How large of a front, number of troops involved, known characteristics of the defensive lines, etc? I certainly trust the considered opinion of fellow FReepers more than Western or Russian disinfo.
1 posted on 08/13/2023 4:57:02 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1690390813639843840?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA


2 posted on 08/13/2023 4:58:30 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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My guess would be around 400K KIA so far, around a million total casualties.


4 posted on 08/13/2023 5:14:56 AM PDT by ganeemead ( )
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...are urgently recruiting residents of Kherson and Nikolayev...

Being told, "Get on the truck or die", is not the same as recruiting.

It's a trap!

5 posted on 08/13/2023 5:36:42 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: JonPreston

I’d fit in with that group!


6 posted on 08/13/2023 5:38:10 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: JonPreston

No offense intended - a Getty image is not allowed, AFAIK - potential copyright complaint by Getty

They may have to remove that - may need to repost that without a Getty image (I try to avoid them but sometimes it can be buried in the link and not stamped on the image)


7 posted on 08/13/2023 6:03:02 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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“My guess would be around 400K KIA so far, around a million total casualties.”

I think you are underestimating Ukrainian losses. It is closer to 132 thousand million billion. And there are 1 thousand million more dead on your side,


8 posted on 08/13/2023 6:07:00 AM PDT by MS60
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To: hardspunned

Going to TASS for a fair coverage of this genocidal war is like going to CNN to find truth about President Trump.


9 posted on 08/13/2023 6:09:12 AM PDT by MS60
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To: MS60

Going to FOX or CNN is no more reliable. Going to the administration is least reliable of all. As I stated, I don’t trust anyone’s disinfo. That’s why I asked for “Freeper’s considered opinions”. I’ll put you in the “don’t do considered opinions” category.


10 posted on 08/13/2023 6:18:19 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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I’d venture to say that anything coming out of Tass is as heavily propagandized as is anything coming from Kiev or our own mainstream media. Without third party reporting, such as with embedded reporters at the front, there is no way of telling what the truth is. And for darn certain the daily propaganda threads here at FR by the warmongers is not the truth. Simply seeing Russia misspelled as Ruzzia ticks me off.

Given the monetary, material and human resources of both Russia and Ukraine I’d say Russia has a clear advantage and the death tolls of the Ukes has got to be tremendous. It’s quite likely they are as desperate as their Nazi forefathers of WWII Germany for manpower.


11 posted on 08/13/2023 6:26:56 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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12 posted on 08/13/2023 7:13:42 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: ganeemead

Recruiting. LOL.

get in the truck, or get shot on the spot.


13 posted on 08/13/2023 7:29:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SaveFerris

gotcha


14 posted on 08/13/2023 7:57:30 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: hardspunned

Recruiting = forced at the point of gun to enlist and then sent to the frontlines to die.


15 posted on 08/13/2023 9:43:51 AM PDT by Kazan
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I like jokes but not when we're talking about death. The truth is that Ukraine has lost over 200k killed and at least as many wounded. This war is another attempt to hide corruption by Biden and other corrupt politicians. They don't care about the Ukrainians dying. The war will only stop when there are no more Ukrainians left to fight or the money runs out.
16 posted on 08/13/2023 11:44:34 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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Deaths of Ukrainian soldiers, and civilians are not hidden like they are in Russia. For example, there is a wall in Kyiv where pictures and names of soldiers killed in action are displayed.

It is true that Russian propagandists in particular wildly overstate the size of battles. In one recent example posters here on Free Republic claimed that 3,000 Ukrainians had been killed in the assault. In reality the attack consisted of about 200 Ukrainian soldiers, with probably a few deaths and a small number of injuries.

The war in Ukraine is far more violent than most recent wars where a major military force fights against insurgents or a very weak adversary. In Ukraine the battles are much more dangerous, particularly with the widespread use of drones for surveillance.

Neither side wants to publish loss information because that is obviously useful to the other side. But those who say that Ukrainian military casualties exceed Russian military casualties are incorrect.

17 posted on 08/13/2023 12:09:10 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Ukraine has lost over 200k killed and at least as many wounded.

Where did you obtain those numbers?

18 posted on 08/13/2023 12:10:04 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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https://www.google.com/search?q=The+truth+is+that+Ukraine+has+lost+over+200k+killed+and+at+least+as+many+wounded.&rlz=1CAXGER_enUS827&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#ip=1

Lots of data at various web sites. Click the above for some.


19 posted on 08/13/2023 12:20:21 PM PDT by deport
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To: Lockbox

Yeah


20 posted on 08/13/2023 7:05:33 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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