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Milwaukee Brewers said to 'begin exploring relocation' as it seeks $448m for stadium renovations
The Daily Mail ^ | 11 Aug 2023 | Jake Fenner

Posted on 08/12/2023 10:33:56 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

The Milwaukee Brewers are on the verge of exploring relocation options as the team looks to renovate American Family Field.

According to FrontOfficeSports, the team is seeking $448million worth of upgrades to the stadium that was opened in 2001.

While relocation is not the go-to move, it appears that MLB commissioner Rob Manfred is pressuring Wisconsin state officials to provide funds by indicating the team could look to move as early as this fall.

American Family Field - formerly known as Miller Park - broke ground in 1996 before its grand Opening Day in 2001.

American Family Field - formerly known as Miller Park - broke ground in 1996 before its grand Opening Day in 2001.

Before then, the Brewers had been playing in Milwaukee County Stadium - a park that had been open for 50 years before closing in 2000.

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To: MinorityRepublican

Eff them. Still pissed at how they choked in 1982 against the Cardinals in the World Series.


21 posted on 08/12/2023 10:50:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: cgbg

Not really. The numbers almost never really workout. So many times the businesses get free infrastructure and tax breaks and do things like outsource the project, or just open another plant when the tax breaks run out.

Prostitution is prostitution. Pick a whore out of your choice. The story is always the same.

I don’t blame the businesses. I blame the government. They keep offering their cities up.


22 posted on 08/12/2023 10:50:49 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: cgbg

Good work.

A happened across a book on stadium funding influence on city revenues once in the library and leafed through it.

Then discovered many rich people have gotten the taxpayers to foot the bill (if not for all of the stadium then for freeway exits, access roads, bridges for pedestrians, demolition of buildings and the all important tax breaks.) And instead of the bars, restaurants and stores plus seasonal parking and vendor employees making the money back, the only ones really getting rich after it all were the original rich people.

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=556343119&q=book+about+sports+stadiums+costs+to+taxpayers&tbm=bks&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiPrvDq1deAAxUpkYkEHeLxB24Q0pQJegQIUxAB&biw=1


23 posted on 08/12/2023 10:51:08 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: LumberJack53213

In the 90s I felt safe going to Milwaukee, and it was cheaper, less crowded than chicago. Not anymore. It’s as bad as Chicago. We had a few tailgate parties at County Stadium - it was fun. The new stadium is not as good for that and I never warmed up to it.


24 posted on 08/12/2023 10:54:24 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sometimes you see team names don’t make a lot of sense.

For example, Los Angeles Lakers doesn’t make sense. They were originally the Minneapolis Lakers, which made sense, as Minnesota is the Land of 10,000 lakes. For whatever reason, they kept the name.

When the Montreal Expos moved to Washington, they became the Nationals, as they didn’t want to call them the Washington Expos.

New Orleans Jazz made sense for New Orleans, but when the team moved to Utah, they inexplicably kept the Jazz nickname.


25 posted on 08/12/2023 10:54:37 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MinorityRepublican

Baseball has long term plans to expand to 32 teams, but Rob Manfred has said that the stadium situations in Oakland and Tampa Bay need to be resolved, before expansion happens.

It sounds like he is adding the Milwaukee stadium situation to the list. After all, if the Brewers are now possibly moving, that would affect cities in line to get an expansion team.


26 posted on 08/12/2023 10:57:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lambeau.


27 posted on 08/12/2023 10:58:13 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is there now an expectation, that new stadiums will be built every 20 years or so, for these professional sports teams?

It seems the useful life of stadiums is shrinking.

And they want to spend over $400 million to renovate/maintain the Brewers stadium? It cost about $400 million to build originally. Are these allegedly needed renovations really that expensive and/or required???


28 posted on 08/12/2023 11:00:49 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MinorityRepublican

If we tear down BU we can rebuild Braves Field for these guys


29 posted on 08/12/2023 11:05:47 AM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Let them go. They’ll be someone else’s problem.


30 posted on 08/12/2023 11:08:09 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: discostu

“I don’t blame the businesses. I blame the government.”

Check out the link I gave you.

The businesses come up with an idea. Then they hire “political consultants” aka lobbyists aka bagmen.

Then they start bribing politicians.

The masterminds are the business owners—the crooked politicians are just their instruments.


31 posted on 08/12/2023 11:08:54 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: virgil

DC has so much crime going to a game or concert is too dangerous.


32 posted on 08/12/2023 11:09:37 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Baseball has long term plans to expand to 32 teams, but Rob Manfred has said that the stadium situations in Oakland and Tampa Bay need to be resolved, before expansion happens.

We don't have the market for 32 teams, especially if Manfred wants a billion dollar state of art stadium for each team.

Right now, we're probably at 28 teams. Get rid of Oakland and Tampa Bay.

Then you have one of the teams like Milwaukee or Baltimore potentially move to Las Vegas.

33 posted on 08/12/2023 11:11:26 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Isn’t one Mitt in Utah enough for you people? Do you need a whole team of them?


34 posted on 08/12/2023 11:12:21 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: frank ballenger

I got interested in this topic when the regional city (Hartford, CT) decided to build a minor league baseball stadium around 2015.

The city and state have pumped millions into the deal—and the taxpayers have been soaked.

Eight years later the developer of the stadium and surrounding area and the city of Hartford are still in litigation.

The lawyers are making a fortune on this stuff.


35 posted on 08/12/2023 11:12:30 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Remember a number of years ago, baseball was looking into contraction, rather than expansion? They were planning to buy out at least two franchises, with the rumored targets being the Minnesota Twins and Montreal Expos.

That never happened. But could that idea be revived?


36 posted on 08/12/2023 11:19:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: cgbg

Because they know there will ALWAYS be a city government that whores themselves out. Hiring a consultant to help find the right city, to get the bidding war going is just smart business.

The politicians have to have their hands out to get bribed. Remember when Amazon announced the intention to make a 2nd HQ. Remember all the ways cities trying to get Amazon to come there. Tucson sent them a saguaro (which got sent back), the mayor of KC Missouri bought a bunch of stuff from Amazon and donated it to “charity”, Stonecrest GA offered to de-annex a bunch of land so Amazon could make their own city. And the list goes on and on. It’s machine politics. It’s political whores.

The politicians BEG to be bribed, and offer bribes in return. That’s how this all works. The masterminds are the crooked politicians. This stuff has been going on since Tammany Hall. It’s how the Daley Machine kept the citizens loyal. As long as any member of any city council thinks “I can campaign on adding jobs” this will continue. The politicians have all of the ability to stop this nonsense... and all of the reasons to not stop.


37 posted on 08/12/2023 11:23:18 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“I sort of like the sound of the Salt Lake City Brewers. It’s almost as good as the Utah Jazz.”

The Brewers moved to Salt Lake City where they don’t allow beer.

The Jazz moved to Utah where they don’t allow music. :-)


38 posted on 08/12/2023 11:25:28 AM PDT by edh
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To: MinorityRepublican

Take heart in the bedeepening gloom
That your dog is finally getting enough cheese.
And reflect that whatever fortune may be your lot,
It could only be worse in Milwaukee.


39 posted on 08/12/2023 11:29:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nashville is probably the next target, that’s a very fast growing area.


40 posted on 08/12/2023 11:31:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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