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NASA’s approach to UFOs appears remarkably unscientific
The Hill ^ | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

Posted on 08/11/2023 5:11:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

In 2021, NASA administrator Bill Nelson suggested that mysterious objects encountered by military aviators in recent years may have extraterrestrial origins.

A few years earlier, then-Senator Nelson (D-Fla.) received classified briefings from fighter pilots who had observed mysterious objects exhibiting extraordinary flight characteristics. According to Nelson, “the hair stood up on the back of my neck” while reviewing a classified report on UFOs.

Nelson’s briefings on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) undoubtedly influenced NASA’s decision to establish a 16-member UAP Study Team, consisting largely of outside academics, to “lay the groundwork for future study on the nature of UAPs.”

But from what can be gleaned publicly, the NASA panel appears to be taking a remarkably unscientific approach to the UFO phenomenon.

In May, NASA’s UAP study team held its first public meeting. According to Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon’s UFO office and a speaker at the NASA-hosted forum, of the 800 reports received by his office by late May, the most common observations are of “spheres,” 3-13 feet in size and “white, silver, [or] translucent” in color.

Intriguingly, sensors have observed such objects traveling at speeds ranging from “stationary to Mach 2,” or twice the speed of sound, with “no thermal exhaust detected.”

Kirkpatrick described these perplexing encounters in greater detail as he presented footage of a “metallic,” “spherical orb” recorded by a surveillance drone in the Middle East. Referring to the object in the video, Kirkpatrick stated, “this is a typical example of the thing that we see most of. We see these [‘metallic orbs’] all over the world, and we see these making very interesting apparent maneuvers.”

Kirkpatrick’s comments should have immediately piqued the scientific curiosity of every individual in the room. How, after all, can spherical objects, lacking wings or apparent means of propulsion, remain stationary or travel at the speed of sound? Moreover, how could they conduct such remarkable maneuvers without emitting any heat signature?

One might have expected every scientist’s hand to shoot up immediately during the question-and-answer period following Kirkpatrick’s presentation. Yet not one of the NASA panel’s 16 members asked Kirkpatrick anything about his extraordinary comments.

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It gets worse. Kirkpatrick volunteered that many of the reports involving “metallic orbs” are based “very much” on “multi-sensor observations.”

Multi-source, corroborative data, as described by Kirkpatrick, are among the most valuable to scientists. Yet not one member of the NASA panel followed up on Kirkpatrick’s second intriguing revelation of the morning. Indeed, the chair of the NASA study team appeared distracted, seemingly glued to his phone.

The peculiar UAP characteristics outlined by Kirkpatrick were not only reported by servicemembers during World War II, but they are also identical to those described by former U.S. Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves, who testified under oath during a July 26 congressional hearing.

Graves, along with at least 50 to 60 naval aviators, observed spherical objects capable of remaining stationary against hurricane-force winds or moving at the speed of sound on a daily basis in 2014 and 2015. Moreover, the mysterious craft remained aloft for extreme durations, far outlasting fighter jets.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: fringe; ohsomysteriouso; ufo; ufos
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1 posted on 08/11/2023 5:11:50 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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2 posted on 08/11/2023 5:12:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s not meant to be scientific. It’s just fodder to make you feel like your belly’s full when the economy collapses and we’re back to a hunter/gatherer society.


3 posted on 08/11/2023 5:16:57 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: RoosterRedux

“NASA’s approach to UFOs appears remarkably unscientific”

Well, DUH. /s

(”squirrel”)


4 posted on 08/11/2023 5:18:31 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: RoosterRedux

NASAs approach to UAPs is the same as their approach to climate change, it’s full of fake science.


5 posted on 08/11/2023 5:19:46 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: RoosterRedux; RitaOK; thinden

:: Do not enter onto a thread on a topic you don’t like just to disrupt, rattle cages, poke sticks, insult the regulars, or engage in trolling activities, etc. ::

So, if we use critical thought to speak the opposite of this narrative...will we be sent to Festival?


6 posted on 08/11/2023 5:20:41 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Cracker...)
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To: RoosterRedux

The science challenged media is playing “distract the underlings”. As in “Nothing to see here about the corrupt, inept, and perverted Biden family. Move on, move on. Look at the shiny UFOs.”


7 posted on 08/11/2023 5:21:25 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Do you think the FR Rule mentioned above somehow discourages critical thought?


8 posted on 08/11/2023 5:23:22 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Da Coyote
That would make sense if this story were so widely spread in the media that it was actually distracting.

As it is at present, this story is hardly known by anyone who stays abreast of national events.

9 posted on 08/11/2023 5:26:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
10 posted on 08/11/2023 5:28:15 AM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: RoosterRedux
Do you think the FR Rule mentioned above somehow discourages critical thought?
I detest all censorship.
11 posted on 08/11/2023 5:30:47 AM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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To: roving

12 posted on 08/11/2023 5:32:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: roving

Spamming threads to prevent discussion of a topic is a form of censorship, isn’t it?


13 posted on 08/11/2023 5:33:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: fruser1

It’s not meant to be scientific.

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Agree.

There’s only two reasons they wouldn’t approach the issue with scientific rigor or intense research

1) They know UFOs are not real or at least not extraterrestrial, and not worth bothering about.

2) They know they are real but cannot openly be studied because that would remove plausible deniability and secrecy.

In other words, what it tells me is what is left besides those two; That UFO are deemed as potentially real but we haven’t figured them out yet. If that were the case, this would be right in NASA’s wheel-house.


14 posted on 08/11/2023 5:35:36 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: roving
I detest all censorship.

That's a good one. Being asked to remain on topic, and have a decent, thought-provoking discussion is now "cencorship."

15 posted on 08/11/2023 5:38:19 AM PDT by AnglePark (My opinion is the most worthless thing I own.)
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To: z3n
2) They know they are real but cannot openly be studied because that would remove plausible deniability and secrecy.

I tend to lean towards this one, but I don't discount the first option. If they openly admit they're real, it opens a huge can of worms -- especially if there's contact/communication with specific or select governments.

16 posted on 08/11/2023 5:41:41 AM PDT by AnglePark (My opinion is the most worthless thing I own.)
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To: fruser1

it’s ment to take our focus off of Trump trial.


17 posted on 08/11/2023 5:52:04 AM PDT by Ronald77
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To: RoosterRedux

This is what happens when diversity is a metric.


18 posted on 08/11/2023 5:54:07 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: RoosterRedux

The UFO’s in question do not conform to known science.

Known science has little or nothing to relate to apparently many observations by reliable observers

The premise of applying known science to the unknown observations is therefore without merit

QED


19 posted on 08/11/2023 5:57:56 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: roving
"“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12)
20 posted on 08/11/2023 6:09:11 AM PDT by plain talk
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