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Ham Radio Enthusiasts vs. High-Frequency Traders: A Battle for the Airwaves
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 05 Aug, 2023 | Alexander Osipovich

Posted on 08/09/2023 9:27:42 AM PDT by Theoria

Trading firms are asking FCC to open shortwave frequencies to greater commercial use

Ham radio operators are sounding the alarm over the latest threat to their beloved hobby—and this time, it is coming from Wall Street.

A group of high-frequency trading firms is asking the Federal Communications Commission to open shortwave frequencies to greater commercial use, so they can use radio to zip financial data around the world in milliseconds.

Prominent members of the amateur-radio community say interference from traders’ broadcasts could ruin their hobby, which often involves tuning in to weak radio signals so they can chat with fellow hams in faraway places. Hundreds of hams have filed letters with the FCC opposing the traders’ proposal, and some have railed against the plan in YouTube videos.

Brock Fansler is among those speaking out. A 40-year-old Los Angeles resident with shoulder-length hair, he likes using his radio to send digital data about weather conditions to other hams. He complains that the traders are looking to transmit with up to 20,000 watts of power, whereas amateurs are capped at 1,500 watts, and many use off-the-shelf radios with 100 watts.

“They’re asking for an insane amount of power,” Fansler said. “It’s like having neighbors move in with a drum set and guitar. This is going to be blasted all over the planet, with how much wattage they’re going to put behind it.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: airwave; fcc; hamradio; hobby; wallstreet
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1 posted on 08/09/2023 9:27:42 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Full article

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2 posted on 08/09/2023 9:27:53 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

bttt


3 posted on 08/09/2023 9:28:45 AM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our was nation. Never be slave in a new Socialist America)
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To: Theoria

You don’t have to be an Einstein-level genius to figure out who’s going to get the short end of the stick in this battle!


4 posted on 08/09/2023 9:30:35 AM PDT by jpl ("You are fake news.")
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To: Theoria

Well, we know who will win this battle.........................


5 posted on 08/09/2023 9:44:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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The problem isn’t just the fundamental frequencies involved, but data transmission will generate all kinds of interference in other frequencies because of harmonics and intermodulation distortion..................


6 posted on 08/09/2023 9:46:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Money talks, citizens walk.


7 posted on 08/09/2023 9:51:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: Theoria

Hay wall street. They invented this thing called fiber-optic. Look into it.


8 posted on 08/09/2023 9:53:11 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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A group of high-frequency trading firms is asking the Federal Communications Commission to open shortwave frequencies to greater commercial use, so they can use radio to cheaply zip financial data around the world in milliseconds.

Fixed it.

9 posted on 08/09/2023 9:54:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should be less concerned with who we might offend and more concerned with who we inspire.)
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Nobody is going to suffer the pain of keeping HF data circuits up instead of modern digital over fiber.


10 posted on 08/09/2023 9:54:45 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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They wish to handle data related to trades just a silly millisecond sooner than the next guy...

HF radio is faster than ANY optical fiber network. The speed of HF electromagnetic waves will always beat optical fiber as the fiber material slows down the speed of light..

Electromagnetic waves travel fastest in vacuum, any medium will slow it down.


11 posted on 08/09/2023 10:28:26 AM PDT by Bobalu (I'm homesick for a country that no longer exists...)
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To: Red Badger

Technical standards should be high, and can easily be met with modern digital transmitters. Some of the US shortwave stations broadcasting bible-thumpers like Brother Stair have had terribly poor signals with no action from the FCC. This started when FCC became staffed with more lawyers than engineers.


12 posted on 08/09/2023 10:29:50 AM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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To: Theoria

A way to cut back on the way citizens can communicate.


13 posted on 08/09/2023 11:54:53 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Biden whispered "Don't Jump")
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"could ruin their hobby, which often involves tuning in to weak radio signals so they can chat with fellow hams in faraway places"

Fellas, let me introduce you to this little thing called THE INTERNET!.

14 posted on 08/09/2023 11:58:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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The internet not good enough for them?


15 posted on 08/09/2023 12:10:34 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: BigFreakinToad

Fact.


16 posted on 08/09/2023 12:11:41 PM PDT by LeftyStomper
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You can have my ham radio bands when you pry them from my cold dead hands!!


17 posted on 08/09/2023 12:13:36 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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“Hay wall street. They invented this thing called fiber-optic. Look into it.”

Believe me, they did that years ago. A company I worked for put in a point to point private fiber connection from a trading floor downtown to a data center near Aurora. 512 strands just for them. And that was just for backup. Too much latency to suit them.

Their primary link is a point to point microwave solution.

L


18 posted on 08/09/2023 12:17:16 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Theoria

Legally we’re limited to 1500 watts. I know hams that are capable of far more than that.

Hell, my Alpha 9500 loafs at 1500 and can do that all day long. It doesn’t take much to get it over 2k and into my Mosley TA33SR which is rated at 2500w (before modifications up to 5k, just to be safe) I’m not too worried about traders interfering with MY receive. They should be worried about theirs when we hams start pointing our beams their way and collectively interfering with theirs.

We all know the FCC doesn’t enforce jack sh#t, so not worried about a damn thing. They can’t possibly bust us all.


19 posted on 08/09/2023 12:21:53 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Routers create too much latency.


20 posted on 08/09/2023 12:23:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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