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'I'm going to be homeless': Ohio Medicaid collects $87.5M from families after loved ones' death
Springfield News-Sun via Yahoo ^ | Sat, July 29, 2023 | Nick Blizzard

Posted on 07/31/2023 4:28:46 AM PDT by jacknhoo

Rebecca Miller said her father was on Medicaid for about two years and she served as his caretaker at his home after he was diagnosed in 2018 with Parkinson's disease, from which he died last August.

About 30 days later while still mourning David Miller's passing, the 36-year-old said she received a letter from the Ohio Attorney General's Office stating her father owed $56,000 to Medicaid Estate Recovery.

The Medicaid collection program was foreign to the Clinton County woman, as it is to the vast majority of people, attorneys said.

The state notice was a jolt, informing Miller that her father's house — for which she said the mortgage has been paid in full and is "the only real home that I've ever known" — was at risk, potentially leaving her homeless.

The AG's letter stated "that they were going to take the place because of a $56,000 lien from Medicaid," she said. "I've even called Medicaid myself to find out why — what kind of services are you saying (he owes) $56,000 for?"

Stories like Miller's are "the classic Medicaid estate recovery" experience in the federally mandated program, one elder care and Medicaid planning south suburban Dayton attorney told the Dayton Daily News.

Ohio's AG's office — which collects the funds for the Ohio Department of Medicaid — has recovered more than $270 million since 2019, a year in which more than $730 million was collected nationwide, records show.

Washington Twp. attorney Ted Gudorf said he has a client who has been in a Kettering elderly care facility since last October.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: death; government; inheritance; marxisttyranny; medicaid
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To: mewzilla

“You won’t like the quality of care you’ll get from Medicaid.”

Such care is administered by state-licensed professionals. The main reason people don’t like it is because they are Democrats and therefore ungrateful.

Democratic Medicaid recipients will not generally get billed except for custodial nursing home care.

Middle class folks will get billed unless they pay their co-pays upfront.


21 posted on 07/31/2023 4:59:21 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: jacknhoo

Medicaid is not a free ride. They expect you to cover, or reimburse, the state for any medical expenses the state pays, until you don’t have anything left, then they pick up the tab.

They don’t think it’s fair that the state should pay your medical bills when you have the wherewithal to do it yourself.

I’m surprised Freepers aren’t on board with that


22 posted on 07/31/2023 4:59:21 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Leep

Here’s how it works in NYS...

https://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/excess_income.htm

Note how eager they are to get you to do this.

BTW, and I say this from decades of experience, don’t do this if you can avoid it.

The care you get on Medicaid will be worth what you pay for it.


23 posted on 07/31/2023 4:59:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: jacknhoo

It is well known that medicaid will require spending down of assets to qualify. They make “compassionate allowance” to a recipient and/or spouse to stay in the primary dwelling until the recipient is done receiving services. Then the remaining asset is claimed to recover expenses. Not new.


24 posted on 07/31/2023 4:59:42 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: jacknhoo

Oh, you don’t possibly think that some young mother with children diagnosed with a childhood illness, or having lost the father of the children will pay that back? Yes, there are plenty of free lunches. I knew a man who died in a crash. He had three women pregnant at his death. All three collected welfare for the children.


25 posted on 07/31/2023 5:00:14 AM PDT by healy61 (.)
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To: jacknhoo

“Rebecca Miller said her father was on Medicaid for about two years and she served as his caretaker at his home after he was diagnosed in 2018.”

I assume that if the home had been put in her name, she would be in the clear now. In retrospect, it sounds like they should have seen a lawyer.

“Rebecca Miller said she cared for her father at his home, he didn’t have a nurse and was never in a nursing home, so she was surprised at the attorney general’s letter seeking $56,000. ... She said “I’ve even called Medicaid myself to find out why — what kind of services are you saying (he owes) $56,000 for?”

That is a good question, and she deserves a good answer.

To me, there is a valid and important distinction between Medicare and Medicaid. How financial and legal principles play out differently between the two, I do not know.


26 posted on 07/31/2023 5:00:21 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: Leep

Some states allow for Medicaid spend down eligibility, but not all do.


27 posted on 07/31/2023 5:00:59 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: jacknhoo

Medicaid, like The Disability, is a deal with the Devil


28 posted on 07/31/2023 5:01:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: jacknhoo

Medicaid is welfare. People are all the time trying this scam. Get ahold of the elderlys’ assets while leaving the taxpayer with the bill.


29 posted on 07/31/2023 5:01:21 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Brian Griffin

Our loved ones paid their own way in residential care.

They got far superior care.

They also had Medigap policies.

I saw the care the dual eligibles got in the same facilities.

It sucked.

You get what you pay for.

It’s that simple.


30 posted on 07/31/2023 5:04:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

“indignant” people without assets.

Yes. We have too many of those. :)


31 posted on 07/31/2023 5:05:41 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: jacknhoo

I’m aware.

They tried the same thing with my dad.

So, my dad pays into the system for 50 years. Paid for that insurance. Dies. And then they want all their money back.

Meanwhile, 5,000,000,000 and counting are getting everything for free.

Sorry, jacknhoo, that don’t ain’t hunting.


32 posted on 07/31/2023 5:06:54 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: jacknhoo

“’the only real home that I’ve ever known’ — was at risk, potentially leaving her homeless.”

It is my understanding that naturally dependent persons living in a decedent’s house are exempt from Medicaid clawback, at least in Florida.

My Democratic neighbors have their house held in a family trust.


33 posted on 07/31/2023 5:08:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: jacknhoo

My wife is one of 5 children. When her mom went into a nursing home, Medicaid paid most of the bill for that. Fortunately the house was in a trust so that when mom passed, Medicaid was only able to get 1/6 of the value of the house. The other went to the children. Without that paperwork, done in advance of mom going into the nursing home, Medicaid would have gotten the whole thing.


34 posted on 07/31/2023 5:10:42 AM PDT by Bernard ("No matter where you go, there you are." (Buckaroo Banzai))
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To: qaz123

Medicaid is not a program you pay forward. Medicaid is where you go when you have NO resources to pay your own care, it’s WELFARE. If your parents have to go on welfare in their old age to pay for their medical care, they didn’t raise very good kids, did they? You are thinking of Medicare.


35 posted on 07/31/2023 5:12:51 AM PDT by Segovia
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To: SauronOfMordor

TRUTH.

My MIL is in an assisted living place and there are some ‘elderly welfare recipients’ who are demanding, mean and require more than anyone else for FREE. They don’t pay one red cent and are treated like kings.


36 posted on 07/31/2023 5:14:37 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: qaz123

“Meanwhile, 5,000,000,000 and counting are getting everything for free.”

Mayor Adams could have his future voters sign an agreement to repay the city.


37 posted on 07/31/2023 5:16:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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To: mn-bush-man

I’ve been forced to pay into SS for 50 years. I’d hardly call it entitlement.


38 posted on 07/31/2023 5:19:01 AM PDT by albie
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To: ClearCase_guy

Medicaid is supposed to be for people who are poor. If you have 100% equity in a $300,000 home, then you aren’t poor enough for Medicaid. The state won’t give you a hard time over it while you are receiving medical care, but when all is said and done the state WILL claw back those assets you own.


39 posted on 07/31/2023 5:21:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've just pissed in my pants and nobody can do anything about it." -- Major Fambrough)
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To: mewzilla

“I saw the care the dual eligibles got in the same facilities.”

My aunt was in a nursing home. I saw no substandard care there.

People with money that see (or smell the urine of) substandard care in a facility will seek out another facility.

Good facilities will generally only accept people that can pay private rates upfront for an extended period of time. As I understand things, once the patient runs out of cash, the facility has to continue to serve the patient at Medicaid rates.


40 posted on 07/31/2023 5:26:28 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (“Miserably inadequate” people generally vote Democratic.)
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