Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Cluster Munitions & Artillery in Ukraine - Attrition, Ammunition & Adaptation in 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zcUe47xerQ ^ | 7/16/2023 | Perun

Posted on 07/16/2023 10:08:46 AM PDT by Chode

Jul 16, 2023 Description: While systems like tanks, jets and cruise missiles tend to capture the public imagination, the war in Ukraine in 2023 is largely being fought with much the same tools as it was in 2022 - artillery.

The constant exchange of fire has been critical to the battle, enabling attrition, blunting attacks and enabling advances. Both sides have continued to adapt, trying to refine their tactics and capabilities while wearing down their opponent.

But in this attritional struggle, losses and resupply of systems, barrels and ammunition matter, not just tactics. Ukraine now finds itself in an ammunition deficit - trying to attack at a time where its allies have not yet ramped up production enough to readily meet its needs.

It's in that context that the US recently announced the supply of cluster munitions to refill Ukraine's ammunition bunkers. Today we look at those munitions, their likely impact, as well as the broader course of the artillery war in Ukraine one year on from my original video on the topic "outgunned"


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 4shop
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last
weekly Perun...
1 posted on 07/16/2023 10:08:46 AM PDT by Chode
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Chode

President Retard is a war criminal according to his own spokesperson


2 posted on 07/16/2023 10:11:05 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male πŸ€ͺ)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chode

We are not the good guys anymore.

I am beginning to wonder if we ever were.


3 posted on 07/16/2023 10:17:30 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆ β–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆβ–ˆ. FJB.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum
We are not the good guys anymore.

I'll start worrying when we put pictures of skulls on our caps.

4 posted on 07/16/2023 10:19:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Chode

Banned munitions are banned forever!
(Unless the Biden Regime needs to deploy to flog a failed big military payoff conflict)


5 posted on 07/16/2023 10:20:00 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator
I'll start worrying when we put pictures of skulls on our caps.

Or put dissenters in prison and have show trials.

6 posted on 07/16/2023 10:21:39 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: MtnClimber
Or put dissenters in prison and have show trials.
So...they run J6 over again.
7 posted on 07/16/2023 10:22:42 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Chode
as the broader course of the artillery war in Ukraine one year on from my original video on the topic "outgunned".

"The Russians are outgunned" transitions to "we are not longer outgunend because we will become war criminals instead and Putin won't know what to do next...."+

We sure about that?

8 posted on 07/16/2023 10:24:28 AM PDT by AndyJackson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Chode
--- weekly Perun...

One observes that this channel / content is created in Australia. On the YouTube channel itself, to contact this "Perun" for business purposes, he lists the following: "Business contact email for sponsor requests:
Else, perun@lighthouseagents.com

What is Lighthouse Agents?

One reads: "Lighthouse Agents represents some of the most successful YouTube channels and social media influencers from around the world. With a focus on building core partnerships with brands and agencies, our creators deliver innovative bespoke campaigns that effectively engage the audience, extend your reach, and increase brand awareness."

Source: https://www.lighthouseagents.com/

This seems interesting becaise so many YouTube channels are monetized in various ways, and posted as "news."

Monetized? Indeed. One learns -- "2,972 paid members at a minimum of $2.50 a month, the Patreon alone seems to bring in about $7,430 per month

Source: https://www.patreon.com/PerunAU/about

Yearly, for simply having "sponsors" on Patreon, this Australian brings in about $89K a year. For videos. From Australia. Repackaging real news reports into "content" as a "content creator."

As a business and as operating, per the above, a social media influencer. Feeling influenced yet?

Placing this in perspective of Free Republic, it seems Perun alone could fun a full quarter of all that Free Republic offers. And have some left over....

9 posted on 07/16/2023 10:34:48 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: citizen
So...they run J6 over again.

All opposition or criticism will be J6 dejaVu all over again.

10 posted on 07/16/2023 10:39:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: NWFree

Nuclear bombs and the planes and pilots to deliver them deep inside Russia are next. And they could already be there.


11 posted on 07/16/2023 10:47:19 AM PDT by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Chode

I post this with the disclaimer that I have no idea whether it’s true or not. Some part or all of could be disinfo. This is the Russian position on the cluster bomb escalation. It’s certainly worth considering.

https://tass.com/russia/1647439


12 posted on 07/16/2023 10:49:35 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: citizen

“””””Banned munitions are banned forever!
(Unless the Biden Regime needs to deploy to flog a failed big military payoff conflict)”””””

β€œThe Defense Department had been due by 2019 to stop use of any cluster munitions with a rate of unexploded ordnance greater than 1%. But the Trump administration rolled back that policy, allowing commanders to approve use of such munitions.”

The Trump administration cancels a plan to curtail the use of cluster bombs
November 30, 2017
β€œThe policy change, which reverses a 2008 decision by the George W. Bush administration”


13 posted on 07/16/2023 11:01:20 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: hardspunned

You posted the propaganda that you want to disseminate for Russia.

Russia has been using cluster bombs since it first started the war, and they have also been using them illegally in war crimes against civilians.


14 posted on 07/16/2023 11:04:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: E. Pluribus Unum

Not since WWII.


15 posted on 07/16/2023 11:08:21 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

So I tell Zelinsky, send us so of those Ukrainian girls, you know what we like ..

Just some old cluster bombs anyways.

16 posted on 07/16/2023 11:10:52 AM PDT by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ansel12
Cluster bombs, so new, so new. Except they are not.

"Between 1964 and 1973, the U.S. dropped more than 270 million cluster bombs on Laos during the Vietnam War." In "The Impact of Cluster Bombs," NPR 10 July 2023/

Source: https://www.npr.org/2023/07/10/1186824634/the-impact-of-cluster-bombs

More than a fifty year history, now made a big deal, for as against. But, nothing new. As yet.

17 posted on 07/16/2023 11:14:07 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Cluster bombs go back to WWII and it is easy to see why the concept would be attractive to the military, the technology of the failure rate has been what makes them ugly, the same reason that indiscriminate and careless laying of old-type land mines is so ugly, it is the left-overs in the field after the war is over.

Our newest versions are far advanced in terms of post-war safety.


18 posted on 07/16/2023 11:25:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: hardspunned

just so we’re straight, he doesn’t consider raining submunition fire on villages as a bad thing... is that it?


19 posted on 07/16/2023 11:27:20 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: DownInFlames

I think the 100s of millions we freed from Russia at great cost of treasure and life would disagree, and most of them are thankful for their NATO membership.


20 posted on 07/16/2023 11:28:43 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson