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Bipartisan Measure Aims to Force Release of U.F.O. Records
NY Times ^ | Julian Barnes

Posted on 07/14/2023 6:47:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, is pushing legislation to create a commission with broad authority to declassify government documents about U.F.O.s and extraterrestrial matters, in an attempt to force the government to share all that it knows about unidentified phenomena.

The measure offers the possibility of pushing back against the conspiracy theories that surround discussions of U.F.O.s and fears that the government is hiding critical information from the public.

The legislation, which Mr. Schumer will introduce as an amendment to the annual defense policy bill, has bipartisan support, including that of Senator Mike Rounds, Republican of South Dakota, and Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, who has championed legislation that has forced the government to release a series of reports on unidentified phenomena.

Support in the House is also likely. On Wednesday, the chamber included a narrower measure in its version of the annual defense bill that would push the Pentagon to release documents about unidentified aerial phenomena.

(While the government has agreed not to call mysterious sightings U.F.O.s, various branches and agencies disagree on whether to refer to aerial phenomena or anomalous phenomena.)

The Senate measure sets a 300-day deadline for government agencies to organize their records on unidentified phenomena and provide them to the review board.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: chuckschumer; davidgrusch; florida; fringe; marcorubio; mikerounds; newyork; ohsomysteriouso; southdakota; ufo; ufos
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To: AnthonySoprano

Please don’t spam the thread with your oversize images.


21 posted on 07/14/2023 7:41:55 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: AnthonySoprano
Again, please don't spam the thread with big images.

And BTW everyone knows Mick West is a debunker. He's a very likeable guy, but he never adds anything to the argument but bias.

22 posted on 07/14/2023 7:44:21 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
How can anyone be sure that what is released is the reality?

The Federal Government, in totality, has already shown their willingness to lie to the American people, with the BS they heaped upon the American people with the Covid lies.

23 posted on 07/14/2023 7:45:36 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Good point. Faith in U.S. institutions has been destroyed (by those very institutions).


24 posted on 07/14/2023 7:47:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Robert DeLong

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The guy comes directly from the Government, and the timing is too good.

Guardian and New York Times pushing it.


25 posted on 07/14/2023 7:48:26 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano ( May 2023: I Guarantee McCarthy won’t allow Biden Impeachment to move forward )
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To: AnthonySoprano

The NY Times and the Pentagon/Government are saying that there is nothing to disclose. That’s what they are pushing.


26 posted on 07/14/2023 7:49:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: AnthonySoprano
For the sake of argument, suppose for a moment that there really is a small group of people who hold actual ET artifacts and are reverse engineering them. Then assume that those people are operating without the knowledge of elected officials, even making decisions about "who should know", "how the discoveries will be used", and so on. Now imagine that those secret projects have the potential or already have yielded remarkable weapon systems and exotic weapons platforms. Even still, they don't divulge these to the elected government. Simply stated, they would be a shadow government.

Furthermore, we all understand in totality that Joe Biden could not possibly be a functioning President. He clearly a pawn, or a "sock puppet". All of the crap going on in his administration is certainly orchestrated by unknown others. Biden could be impeached and removed from office, then guess what? Kamila Harris steps right into the role of "sock puppet".

Are you sure we should refrain from pursuing the Shadow Government?

27 posted on 07/14/2023 8:15:39 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: AnthonySoprano

BTW, though I may disagree with some of them, I think your points deserve serious consideration. Please keep commenting...in regular-sized print, that is. ;-)


28 posted on 07/14/2023 8:24:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: AnthonySoprano

Can I add you to the UFO ping list? You don’t have to agree with everyone about UFO’s...dissenting voices are welcome.


29 posted on 07/14/2023 8:50:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

No, you probably shouldn’t.

I’ll leave you be to your interests. Thank you.

However, when it comes to Elected Republican Politicians, I think I need to respond to our Representatives.


30 posted on 07/14/2023 9:07:07 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (May 2023: I Guarantee McCarthy won’t allow Biden Impeachment to move forward )
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To: AnthonySoprano

If you change your mind, let me know.


31 posted on 07/14/2023 9:08:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

It is worth noting that many of the “squirrel” folks claim that is all Republicans that are interested in this topic.

That is a false claim—and this discussion is proof of that.

How many other false claims are there by the “squirrel” crowd?


32 posted on 07/14/2023 9:11:03 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg
How many other false claims are there by the “squirrel” crowd?

A major percentage of them. They do the work of the shadow government, perhaps unwittingly.

33 posted on 07/14/2023 10:35:00 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: AnthonySoprano; RoosterRedux; GingisK; cgbg

I suppose my snarky comment caused you to decide this.

But let’s be honest and fair about the situation. There is a crew around here who are constantly on the hunt for anything they do not believe or agree with. As soon as they see a title they swoop in and dogpile the thread to disrupt the thread and make sure no one at all gets to have any meaningful discussion about the topic. It is on purpose and it is selfish. If they don’t like it they kill it so no one at all gets it.


34 posted on 07/14/2023 11:55:50 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind; AnthonySoprano; RoosterRedux; cgbg
It is on purpose and it is selfish. If they don’t like it they kill it so no one at all gets it.

Oddly like the liberals whom they pretend to abhor.

35 posted on 07/14/2023 12:30:55 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

“Oddly like the liberals whom they pretend to abhor.”

Yep, I noticed that too. And have called them out for the hypocrisy.


36 posted on 07/14/2023 12:35:09 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

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No, no bad feelings.

Thanks


37 posted on 07/14/2023 12:46:04 PM PDT by AnthonySoprano (May 2023: I Guarantee McCarthy won’t allow Biden Impeachment to move forward )
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To: AnthonySoprano

And thank you for understanding our frustration, because this always happens without fail around here. :)


38 posted on 07/14/2023 12:48:47 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RoosterRedux

The government doesn’t have it.

The CIA and its affiliated defense/industrial corporations have the good stuff.

Been that way since about forever, at least since WWII.

This is what Eisenhower was warning about, obliquely.

JFK tried to break up the CIA/corporate cabal and get the UFO package under his control as POTUS, so he could compare notes with the Soviets, make the moon mission a joint effort and end the Cold War.

Bobby would have done the same thing.

Will the cabal carry out more assassinations to keep its secrets?

As many as it takes.


39 posted on 07/14/2023 3:02:52 PM PDT by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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To: JustaTech

You are right on the money.


40 posted on 07/15/2023 6:09:35 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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