Posted on 07/13/2023 1:59:20 AM PDT by Libloather
Exactly. I watched this interesting video that used scripture in making the case that angels and demons would be considered extra terrestrial since they not born of this earth so technically angels are aliens just not the sci-fi version we’ve been brainwashed believing since the early days of Hollywood.
https://leaders.com/articles/leaders-stories/hedy-lamarr-inventions/
Don’t we all.
That’s because you think you have to fly millions of years to get somewhere which is thinking with blinders on. Maybe someone or thing has figured out the wormhole thing or millions of years to us is a second to them.
Thinking based on our physics is what we know. That may not pertain to there’s.
As I just stated to someone else:
That’s because you think you have to fly millions of years to get somewhere which is thinking with blinders on. Maybe someone or thing has figured out the wormhole thing (as you mentioned) or millions of years to us is a second to them.
Thinking based on our physics is what we know. That may not pertain to there’s.
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LOL, I’ve seen Deep Space Nine too.
I would think that physics is the same everywhere - but our knowledge and understanding of it would be different.
It’s their best selling book I’m worried about, “To Serve Man”.
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Very important point, Sergeant Dave!!!
Bingo
I don't know how Jehovah Elohim put all the chemical elements together to create Adam's body from the "dust of the ground." but he was made of all kinds of substances. As made, Adam's body was not said to be grown from a fertilization process, a fusion of haploid gametes, was he?
Genesis 1:6-27 (AV):That is, in one person, Adam, the male, had both male (Y) and female (X) genes in his cellular chromosomes, whereas the cells of a female have only XX in the gender-determining chromosomes of each cell.
26And God* said, Let us**plural make man in our** image~, after our** likenesssingular: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
26So God* created man in (H)issingular, masculine gender own image~, in the image~ of God created (H)eGod himAdam; male and female created (H)eGod them.-----------
Notes:
* The Hebrew word here is "Elohim," the nature and Name of the uniplural three-in-one Godhead. It denotes plurality of that entity.
** "us" or "our" shows that The God has a plurality of manifestations of the One God Entity.
~ Another equivalent meaning translated "image" in the AV is "resemblance," an entity in its ways of thinking, communication methods, emotion, apart from physical movement.
So at the very first human creature, all the information needed to produce a whole grown human individual was encoded in every single cell DNA of the first male, and being made by Elohim, his flesh body was perfect. He, Adam, was without sin, designed to be alive in every respect forever.
Recapitulation the forming of mnkind in the second chapter:
Genesis 2:7 (AV):And sometime after this moment, God put Adam to sleep and took a part of him, splitting two of his body cells (by meiosis?) to get four haploid cells, each containing only one gender chromosome, either X or Y, but not both. Then what pursued must have been a fusion the two X-containing haploids into a diploid cell having now two X chromosomes, and then (by mitosis?) making them grow into the form of a fully adult female. When God presented her to Adam, whom he named "Ishah," flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone. They both remained perfect, slated for everlasting life until the woman Ishah allowed herself to be deceived by her own false reasoning. This also led her to convince her mate Adam to also go against God's advice to him, thus bringing sin and death into the world, and God's condemnation upon all their descendants.
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 3:17 (AV):Because of it, Adam renamed her "Eve" (Avah in Hebrew tongue), meaning "mother of all living," since LORDJehovah GodElohim had commanded them to be fruitful and multiply (that is, bear children, both males and females), and have lots of descendants.
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, "Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; . . ."
What one may presume is that their descendants, suffering inherited sin from their patrirch, must die physically, But that does not necessarily mean that their souls and spirits would not continue to exist upon separation from the body of flesh when it would no longer sustain biological functioning.
Now, going back to the issue of how God Incarnate obtained the sinless flesh and bone (and blood) that He, the Son, was to inhabit and be integrated with, beginning from the morula that was to be implanted in Mary's virgin maiden womb, none of it derived from her own DNA, but Begotten by His Father Alone, not God and Mary somehow fleshly united. There is no reason to think that Jehovah Elohim could not or would not preserve more of the very same DNA hat He used to form Adam's body into which He breathed life that became a living soul.
The theologians who innovated the idea of "immaculate conception" of Mary alone, were ignorant of the biology that centuries later was revealed by scientific investigation that they were not trained for. They even argued from the unspiritual application of human logic alone, how many angels could dance on the head of a pin (or so it is said)! However, claiming Popeish authority, they have incorporated it into their dogma of "you must believe this; thus forcing their unlearned constituents to support an unscriptural unscientific unproveable thesis, defeating Jesus claim to be The Truth Personified (Jn. 14:6).
Now when Jehovah Elohim formed Adam, he was not gestated in the womb of any female. He has in his flesh all the information needed to generate both male and female individuals, through meiosis (division of a diploid cell into two haploid gamete cells, one having the Y chromosome, and the other having the X chromosome.
One may postulate that even one complete 46 chromosome human cell is big enough for the Spirit of the Messiah to occupy and be intermingled with, a cell that may by mitosis divided to form more such cells joined together, to multiply, and be differentiated and organized into the morula, then blastocyte, then to be implanted into the anaesthetized surrogate mother by the Holy Spirit, attached to Mary's uterus in His embryo form, then gestated into a birth-ready infant and born as Mary's "Seed," (Genesis 3:15) though grafted into her from a supernatural origin.
And that is the scripture-supported hypothesis that I believe God shows the thinking spiritually mature human who is aware of the possibilities understood by the theory and practice of advanced technology currently employed by modern mankind.
Adam and Eve were GMO Hybrid/Clones.
Yes, this is kind of involved and lengthy to write down, but the nubbin of it has to do with the precession of the earth's axis, the continuous year by year constant predictable decline of the Southern Cross heavenly configuration, the following of it further and further over the southern horizon by the magi, the astrologers from Paddan-Aram (Anatolia in the Greek text which means "The East"), a region now bearing the name Turkey.
At Jesus birth time, the brightest star of the Southern Cross, looking from Jerusalem, would have appeared just over Bethlehem's buildings to the south about five miles away and fifty to a hundred feet higher than Jerusalem's elevaton.
The way I reckon is that the magi were not coming to Jerusalem from the eastern direction from Babylon. (Even in Daniel's time 500-600 years earlier, the "wise men," the soothsayers, the astrologers came to Babylon from Sanliurfa, the city "Ur-of-the-Chaldee-mountains"). So, coming from that area, the Paddan-Aram, not far from Lake Van and the Mount Ararat where Noah's Ark beached, they came from the area north of Jerusalem, and had been following the appearance of the Southern Cross more to the south of Sanliurfa for hundreds of years.
That is the true, real star they were loking for, and in the Cross formation as a sign of the Savior's demise to boot!
The region Anatolia (= "The East") is called that by the Greciand because it is east of Greece! (Even by the Persians, though Anatolia is to the west of Iran.)
του δε ιησου γεννηθεντος εν βηθλεεμ της ιουδαιας εν ημεραιςThere are a lot of other crazy hypotheses , but they are of no consequence.
The but Jesus was born in Bethlehem of the Judea in the days
ηρωδου του βασιλεως ιδου μαγοι απο ανατολων παρεγενοντο εις
of Herod the King, behold, Magi from Anatolia they came into
ιεροσολυμα
Jerusalem
λεγοντες που εστιν ο τεχθεις βασιλευς των ιουδαιων ειδομεν
Saying where is he born, King . of the Jews? We have seen
γαρ αυτου τον αστερα εν τη ανατολη και ηλθομεν προσκυνησαι
For of him the star in the Anatolia and have come to worship αυτω
him
Sanliurfa (meaning "Glorious Ur) is the place where Abraham was born and lived, and from which God sent him to Canaan, to which he sent his steward to bring back a wife for Isaac, and to which Jacob went to eavde Esau and also get not A wife. but two, plus two other concubines. It is not the locality way further south and east near the Persian Gulf that the archaeologist Leonard Wooley dug and found another Ur bthere, back in the 1920s, I believe. His claim (wrongly) as Abraham's birthplace cemented his undeserved fame for his unscholarly Christian admirers, but not me. Moody's Bible Atlas confirms my conclusion on that observation.
Ezekiel you are so bright and clever. Sometimes, well,
all the time it is too much to get through
but keep doing what you are doing!
I hope, if you talk like this, you get a show. Your producer would have a lot of fun decorating it with sound.
I recognize your extraordinary talent.
Thank you, a lot of work went into it. Let me introduce something to you worthy of consideration.
I don’t think it was a star at all simply for the reason stars do not sit stationary. They’re constantly on the move, we cannot run fast enough to keep up with them. If a star could sit stationary, there is no way people could congregate directly underneath it. So, what happened wasn’t a star.
Its rumored the three wise men wandered in, as per Google, from 400 to 900 miles. Travel by loaded camel and ass is about 30 miles per day. That in terms of days is anywheres from 15 to 30 days. That’s after they caught onto it and decided to make a road trip. That is a significant period of time.
Other visitors came in from other directions.
If this omnidirectional beacon were sitting at 500 feet, they, the wise men, could see it touching their horizon. Other people could readily congregate under it. If it sat at the elevation such as the stars, they could never find one another. If it sat at the elevation of satellites, the same. In order for the beacon to function of its intended function, it would have to be sitting in our atmosphere.
So, if you accept that we have to set the elevation of the omnidirectional beacon. They would have to get it out of sight so the vehicle could not be seen with a naked eye, but low enough for the first Christian congregation and first Christmas.
Seeing the beacon could radiate light in all directions, it could do down as well. Ever notice how all the old nativity artwork was illuminated from above? This too would aid the ability for the people to find one another and congregate while providing cover for the vehicle providing the omnidirectional beacon.
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“I would think that physics is the same everywhere”
This is a great talk by Rupert Sheldrake—explains why “the laws of physics” were made to be broken—among other things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHUaNAxsTg
The man is stunningly brilliant—and I almost never say that about anyone.
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