Posted on 07/09/2023 1:49:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Eben Alexander, a neurosurgeon doctor who claims to have experienced the afterlife during a seven-day coma, says the experience was like Plato’s world of ideals.
In 2008, Dr. Eben Alexander went into a coma after catching an acute bacterial infection that had a severe neurological impact on his brain. For seven days, he lay unconscious. When he awoke, he described seeing a beautiful spiritual guide on a butterfly wing that took him through a wormhole.
Sharing his story with the U.S. Sun, Dr. Alexander described a land of “beautiful very lush forests and meadow waterfalls into crystal blue pools, absolutely spectacular.”
Before fully detailing what his spiritual guide looked like, the neurosurgeon referred to the theory of Plato, the Greek philosopher who asserted that the physical world is not really the ‘real’ world. On the contrary, ultimate reality exists beyond our physical world.
In his words, “It was kind of like Plato’s world of ideals,” adding “It was a world of perfection.”
Grecian Delight supports Greece Afterlife experience for the doctor After Dr. Alexander’s amazing experience while in a coma, dubbed “Gateway Valley,” he authored the book Proof of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon’s Journey and dedicated his life to proving the existence of heaven.
Dr. Alexander made it clear to the US Sun that recent medical reports show that his mind was “in no shape to have any dream or hallucination.” Even so, he still miraculously managed to experience a life-changing encounter.
While in the coma that had him fighting for his life. he began seeing dark images that sounded pretty haunting. Nevertheless, he recalls not being afraid of the experience although he noted that while describing to people what heaven was like, they would not find it a very pleasant place.
In talking about what he witnessed, he recounted how he was surrounded by unformed blackness and had “no memory” of his own life. Luckily, however, he was saved by a “white light” that came up along with a “perfect musical melody.”
Alexander recalled that “all that ushered me up through this wormhole, or light portal, up into the Gateway Valley, as I call it.”
The presence of “pure love,” he stated, “had “sparkling blue eyes, high cheekbones, high forehead and broad smile” although she didn’t speak a word.
Describing the spiritual guide to his final destination, ‘the core,’ he says he was filled with messages of pure unadulterated love while he rode on a butterfly wing.
On his website, the doctor describes his journey to the “unending inky blackness” of ‘the core’ and hearing angelic choirs’ with thundering hymns further away. He stated that after exiting the wormhole, he witnessed a “perfect” world with some “earthly features.”
God’s presence in Plato’s world of ideals Alexander claimed in his book that there was a deity known by many as God, but the entity could not be defined.
He wrote, “Allah, Vishnu, Jehovah, Yahweh—the names get in the way, and the conflicting details of orthodox religions obscure the reality of such an infinitely loving and creative source.”
The doctor also told the U.S. Sun that, during his week-long coma, he passed through multiple levels, always receiving the same message that “you are deeply loved and cherished forever, [and] you have nothing to fear.”
Although Dr. Alexander was adopted and was raised as a Methodist, he began to question religion when he began studying at Harvard. Be that as it may, it was only after after his birth parents rejected him and he tried to reconnect with them as an adult that he officially gave up on religion and became agnostic.
He said, “I just could not figure out how conscious awareness could survive the death of the brain and body. That was a big mystery to me, and that’s why I think I went through this extraordinary journey.”
Luckily, eight years later, right before his NDE, he eventually met his family and was hugged for the first time after receiving a positive response when he reached out to them again.
“I cannot tell you how powerful an experience that was, but that was really the beginning,” he declared.
Reflecting on his revelation of supposedly seeing God, the doctor said, “The deep reality is that any religion focuses absolutely on unconditional love, complete inclusion of all, no exclusion, kindness, mercy, acceptance, and forgiveness.”
He now perceives religion as something that should unite all people and firmly believes that, if it doesn’t, it should be “discarded.”
Recovery from the afterlife The surgeon’s family was filled with shock at the new man they found when he woke up after seven days of fighting for his life and a coma filled with a collection of uncanny experiences.
Alexander shared his feelings saying, “I think it really scared my family tremendously. They’re all elated, but the first 36 hours I was in and out of my mind, kind of crazy at times.”
During the recovery process, Alexander said he spooked his sister by acting like a “little Buddha” in front of his loved ones.
“I was sitting on the bed like this little Buddha just saying, ‘All is well’ [and] looking everyone deeply in the eyes.” Yet, he noted that he now remembers none of that.
Despite the severity of the experience, which he claims at one point was “an irreversible death spiral”, Dr. Alexander miraculously recovered speciously defying all the odds.
Newfound belief in God and religion Alexander’s apparent interaction with death and heaven greatly transformed his relationship with religion and God. This was a miracle in and of itself, given that the reunion with his birth family was what had prompted him to give up on faith entirely just years prior to his NDE.
It was after his afterlife experience that the doctor urged people to prepare for death by advising them not to wait until the end to review their lives. Rather, he encouraged them to make every choice today in treating themselves and others with love and passion.
“This is not just about what happens when you die, but this is most importantly about how you make every choice today in treating yourself and treating others,” he said. “Don’t wait to do a life review at the end of your life. What a waste that is.”
Dr. Alexander proudly admits he is no longer scared of death. Instead, he is now making good use of every moment he has in his earthly life.
The numbers are increasing for two reasons.
1. The advances in medicine.
2. The increase of the Holy Spirit on earth as we are entering the tribulation times.
A friend of mine who is a cardiologist interviewed hundreds of patients that died and were resuscitated. Approximately 18% recalled an out of body experience. His study was well done, peer reviewed, and published in the Medical Journal Lancet.
Another ER physician friend asked me why so many drug overdose deaths pop back in after they are dead, but accident victims who are barely injured and should survive, do not. It has yo do with the perception of pain that caused them to exit their body.
I’ve crossed over many times, both on my own death and with hospice patients at their death. It is a wonderful experience.
Powerful comments. I expected as much.:-)
Thx!
A: Because reporting such would validate Christianity, which the demonic media can never allow.
A: Because reporting such would validate Christianity, which the demonic media can never allow.
LIES. Allah and Vishnu are NOT the same as Jehovah/Yahweh/Christ.
LIES. Allah and Vishnu are NOT the same as Jehovah/Yahweh/Christ.
I hope CNN or whatever other leftist news channel isn’t on. If it is I think one is in the wrong waiting room for sure.
We know a pastor who has an interest (actually, almost an obsession) in these near death experiences. He drones on and on about how all those who encounter them see the same kind of beautiful things.
He never even seems to consider that the reports are mis-remembered or mis-reported.
He then treats the episodes as some kind of personal revelation that the persons received from God. As in the God of the Bible, and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
OTOH - if someone went nuts and shot someone and said that God told them to do it he would not go along with that.
Come to think of it, in the Bible, anytime where someone was dead and then was miraculously brought back to life, there is no explanation of what they “saw” during that time.
Thanks for listening. I am better equipped to handle this nonsense, now.
Everyone’s got a story to sell.
Many people belong to the “Flat Consciousness Society. “
I call it that in comparison to the “Flat Earth Society” as their thinking has such restrictive boundaries that they discount anything beyond their comprehension. They wear blinders restricting their vision.
The physical bodies of humans are very similar no matter their religion. The souls of humans are very similar no matter their religion. It is easy to assume that their is one creator for all humans, no matter their religion.
That being said, let’s focus on the developmental growth of the human soul and the physical bodies they occupy. We know from medicine and psychology that thrre are developmental stages from fetal development, early childhood, teenage, and on through many other stages to old age and subsequent death.
At death, most religions agree that the soul or consciousness of the individual continues to exist, although there is much variation in the debate of exactly how that happens.
Religion(s) are just theories and philosophies of the anatomy and physiology of the human soul and how it interacts with its environment. They are all describing the same process from a different perspective.
If we merely look at one aspect of human consciousness, frequencies, as they represent the action potential firing rate of the neurons in the brain it helps us to understand the developmental process. What I am describing here is hard science, evidence based medicine, that is generally accepted by all, no matter their religion.
First, what is an action potential firing rate?
When neurons fire, they send electrical impulses from the neuron cell body head through the axon or length of the neuron. An axon or nerve fiber is a long, slender projection of a nerve cell, or neuron, in vertebrates, that typically conducts electrical impulses known as action potentials away from the nerve cell body. The function of the axon is to transmit information to different neurons, muscles, and glands throughout the body.
For comparison, think of spark plug wires on a car, sending electrical impulses to the spark plug to ignite the fuel and generate the energy for the motor to run. As we give it more gas, the rate of electrical impulses in the spark plug wires increases to make the engine run faster.
Neurons in the brain function in a similar manner and that firing rate of neurons is measured in frequency or Hertz, where 1 hertz is equal to 1 cycle per second. That would be 1 impulse per second. This is how frequencies of consciousness are measured on an EEG.
THE EEG measures the action potential firing rate in neurons of the brain. In the developing human, these rates change in stages that correlate with age.
The raw EEG has usually been described in terms of frequency bands: (Note: These frequency ranges are approximations and are slightly different in other references)
DELTA(less than 4 Hz): From conception to about age 2.
These tend to be the highest in amplitude and the slowest waves.
THETA (4-8 Hz): From age 2 to about age 14. This is the emotional child developmental period. Theta is believed to reflect activity from the limbic system and hippocampal regions. Theta is observed in anxiety, behavioral activation and behavioral inhibition.
ALPHA (8-12 Hz) The ages vary beyond this point, but this stage generally begins around age 14 and represents logical thought processing that leads to ego identity formulation and problem solving.
BETA (13-30Hz) This stage is a higher logical analytical thought processing. It’s primary brain area is the prefrontal cortex that does not fully develop until about age 25. Some people never develop this stage of consciousness activity.
The old analog medical equipment in use prior to 1964 were limited in measurement to the above frequencies. The newer digital equipment measured higher frequencies that previously were unknown. Information and research on these higher frequencies is limited as there are fewer subjects to pergorm research.
Gamma greater than 30(Hz): This is the brain frequency of the mystics of all religions. Some state that these frequencies only go to 100 Hz, other 200Hz. I propose that their is no upper limit as I have jammed FM receivers in meditation that function in the Mega Hz range.
Religion(s) are teaching us how to cleanse or souls of the obstacles to Love (sin) and raise our consciousness frequency to the highest level possible. Thus when Jesus said “Love God,” He was telling us to raise our consciousness to the highest level possible.
(Note: I define God as any level of consciousness above the level I am currently at. There are many as my Father’s Mansion has many rooms, (levels.)
Prayer and meditation raises our frequency of consciousness.
At the higher Gamma frequencies, consciousness itself and the contents of people’s souls including stored memories, becomes physical to your perception. The reason is “ Transcendence.” As in these higher frequencies you begin to perceive directly with your consciousness beyond your physical body.
My summary here barely scratches the surface of the anatomy & physiology of the human soul.
Religion(s) are like the five blind men that are led to an elephant for the first time and each gets a different part. They fight and argue over who is correct. They all are correct, but incomplete.
Correction. My typo error.
Alpha frequencies begin around age 8. Roughly third grade when thry begin long division and multiplication.
Beta frequencies begin around ages 14 to 16.
Religion(s) are like the five blind men that are led to an elephant for the first time and each gets a different part.
1) “...there was a deity known by many as God, but the entity could not be defined.”
2) He wrote, “Allah, Vishnu, Jehovah, Yahweh—the names get in the way, and the conflicting details of orthodox religions obscure the reality of such an infinitely loving and creative source.”
I have no idea if his (or any) NDEs are real or not. But - his description of boundless love, as well as God as an entity that could not be defined (or put into a box) are biblical.
But then I think the good Doctor inputs his own, and limited knowledge about the world’s religions as a commentary on what he says he experienced.
Good question. Jesus states this in John 14.
People think of the “WAY” as following a person down a path to a destination. That is not how you find the Kingdom of God.
The Kingdom of God is within you.
As you focus on God in Prayerful Meditation, your consciousness increases in frequency. As it increases in frequency, it increases in size. It expands way beyond your physical body.
A good model to visualize this is Russian Nesting Dolls, where you are the little doll in the middle and God is the big outer doll in which you exist. Jesus is a doll between us and God.
You cannot get to God except by going through Jesus. Thus the statement that you cannot get to God except through Jesus is a true statement.
There are other dolls as well. You must go through all levels. I choose to be Christian as His teachings are my path. However, I understand Jesus’s teachings better by reading Buddhism and Hinduism texts as well. Never to discount the Bible, but to understand it better.
In John 14 Jesus also states that He is in Our Father and Our Father is in Him. Down further, Jesus also states that if He is in us, (that’s communion), then Our Father that is in Him is also in us. Try to understand those scriptures without the Nesting Doll model.
I state this based upon my own experiences and observations by going within. Then I needed to ground my experiences in the Bible.
Jesus also states in John 14, that the things that He does and even more, you too shall do in Him. This is very true. The reason people aren’t doing these things is because they misunderstand His teachings.
Jesus is here RIGHT NOW. If that were not the case, What good would be communion? He is teaching us how to raise up to Him and experience Him. He sent the Helper Spirit to assist us in doing that. That is the “Raised Up” that He teaches us as tribulation happens.
Further supporting this are Matthew 24:26.
“26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.”
We exist with Jesus’s Consciousness. No matter where you exist on earth, you exist within Jesus. No matter where you exist on earth, if you go within and raise up, Jesus is already here.
You are the soul or consciousness that occupies your physical body. When I died and went to Heaven I departed this earthly body. But spiritual growth is attained by transcending and expanding beyond the physical body. That is Heaven on earth.
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Thx. I will contemplate that.
Read later.
I had a devout Jewish woman confide in me that during her NDE she met Jesus. She could not share it with her Jewish family or anyone else.
This woman wrote books and made many TV appearances to discuss her NDE. She was even on Oprah.
She never disclosed this to anyone, except to me in confidence. She was not Christian, but yet in her death she met Jesus.
It is impossible for anyone on earth, no matter their religion, to find God without meeting Jesus first, even though they might call Him by another name.
There is no mistaking Jesus when you meet Him as the Love is unmistakable. Demons cannot imitate Jesus due to His radience.
Christians say Jesus is their Savior, and they treat Him like a lifeguard that can pluck you out when you are drowning, i.e. dying.
Which would you sooner have, a lifeguard that waits for you to drown, or a lifeguard that teaches you how to swim? Jesus was a rabbi, a teacher. He was teaching us how to raise up, be One with Him, and do the things that He did and more, all while in Him.
Ps. I also know Hindus who met Jesus during their NDE.
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Sounds more like a good acid trip...
He is extremely active in my daily life. It is hard to explain that and I seldom try because it doesn't make sense to people who aren't having the same experiences. But since I gave my life to Jesus many years ago, the Holy Spirit has been a noticeable (to me) and profound feature of my life.
Totally agree with your reasoning. To me, it gets scary because of the obscurity. I want to know the true God and people who have NDEs fascinate me because they get a glimpse. I realize that it’s only a glimpse. Like the door of a huge luxurious banquet opening for someone took take a quick look. That person has no idea of what it is really like.
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