Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: Jan_Sobieski

Why don’t you explain that to Grennell, Scott Presler, or Brandon Straka as well as other fiscally conservative, MAGA patriots, people who fight for many of the same values Freepers do.
Judge people on the whole package not based on who they sleep with.
While the acts may disgust me they are private as are heterosexual acts. No sex act belongs in the public space, especially not before children or in schools. My personal belief is that while a commitment ceremony is fine marriage is not a line that should have been crossed. It should not have been a National decision; it belonged with the States in any case. But that is in the past. Now we deal with the fallout.


4 posted on 07/03/2023 10:26:28 AM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: JayGalt

Almost any issue can involve a slippery slope that will eventually leave you hip deep in sewage at the bottom of the slope. We have seen that with the homosexual agenda. Others are now criticizing social conservatives and pontificating about fiscal conservatism. Fiscal conservatism has already become a slippery slope for some and will get more so for others. If you have no firm values, no hill to die on, you will eventually end up in the sludge at the bottom.

Those who are “fiscally conservative but socially liberal” are probably willing to leave social conservatives like myself in the dust...or in the jailhouse.

I have wavered on various issues over the years, but long ago the homosexual agenda became my hill to die on. I will not support a candidate who supports it. Period. There are many like me. If it means losing, so be it. We have a better country, that is, a heavenly one, that awaits us.


10 posted on 07/03/2023 10:52:06 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

To: JayGalt

Trump backstabbed conservatives on the issue:

2015 - Donald Trump is “for traditional marriage” (CNN interview)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0hIiF2Hbfw

2016 - Trump hopes for reversal on same-sex-marriage

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-iowa-caucuses-marriage-218471

THEN, IMMEDIATELY AFTER BEING ELECTED, HE FLIP FLOPPED:

GOP President-Elect Donald Trump Says Same-Sex Marriage Is ‘Settled’ Law

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gop-president-elect-donald-trump-sex-marriage-settled/story?id=43513067


15 posted on 07/03/2023 10:58:27 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Ultra Conservative)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

To: JayGalt

“ Judge people on the whole package not based on who they sleep with.”

Sounds like the squishy compromise that explains why we are where we are at.

“Who they sleep with” has turned into teachers secretly arranging sex change procedures for kids.


19 posted on 07/03/2023 11:03:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

To: JayGalt
Why don’t you explain that to Grennell, Scott Presler, or Brandon Straka as well as other fiscally conservative, MAGA patriots, people who fight for many of the same values Freepers do.

Not a problem. I would tell all of them to repent and believe in the Gospel. I have learned that so-called "fiscal conservatives" who enjoy sodomy will sell religious conservatives down the river in a split second if pressed by their fetishist brethren. I have no loyalty to them, regardless of the party label they choose to adopt.
38 posted on 07/03/2023 12:31:58 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

To: JayGalt
While the acts may disgust me they are private as are heterosexual acts.

Which mentality is close to what the manual of mendacity worked to achieve, a strategy set forth in the book "After the Ball" years ago by two homosexual Harvard-trained graduates, Marshall Kirk (1957–2005), a researcher in neuropsychiatry, and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill) whose social marketing advocated avoiding portraying gays as aggressive challengers, but as victims instead, while making all those who opposed them to be evil persecutors. "The campaign we outline in this book, though complex, depends centrally upon a program of unabashed propaganda, firmly grounded in long-established principles of psychology and advertising." (After the Ball, p. xxviii).

Which includes promoting the premise that what is done in private does not affect you:

"as long as Joe Six-pack feels little pressure to perform likewise, and as long as the behavior in question presents little threat to his physical and financial security, he soon gets used to it and life goes on.... the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent-.. "

Note that Marshall Kirk (1957–2005) was a researcher in neuropsychiatry, and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill), was schooled in social marketing. "The “born gay” hoax was invented in 1985 by Marshall Kirk and Dr. Hunter Madsen. Marshall Kirk graduated magna cum laude from Harvard University in 1980 majoring in Psychology and went on to become a writer and researcher in neuropsychiatry. Dr. Hunter Madsen earned a PhD in politics from Harvard University in 1985, then went on to become an expert on public persuasion tactics, social marketing, and has designed commercial marketing on Madison Avenue. He has also served as a consultant to pro-sodomy media campaigns across America." - https://huntermadsenportmoody.wordpress.com/tag/harvard/

Marshall Kirk died in 2005 at the young age of 47. The cause of death has not been publicly revealed. But if you think obedience to God, including private, is not to be affirmed and promoted by the gov., and the contrary reproved, or that what is done in private does not affect you, then at least consider:


In 2019, the largest percentages of HIV infections were attributed to male-to-male sexual contact (66% overall and 81% among males.)


91 posted on 07/03/2023 8:33:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson