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The Battle of Gettysburg & the Big Lie of ‘It’s never been this bad’ – Terry Pluto’s Faith & You
Cleveland Dot Com ^ | 1 July 2023 | Terry Pluto

Posted on 07/01/2023 1:26:59 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

As July 4 approaches, do we care about things like the 160th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg?

Do we think much about America’s Civil War and that it matters, or we are too stuck in our own private and political civil wars?

After all, it’s never been “this bad” in our country? Don’t we hear someone in the media say that, every week ... maybe every day?

“At the doorway I saw a huge stack of amputated arms and legs, a stack as high as my head!” said Private William Southerton, age 21, 75th Ohio. “The most horrible thing I ever saw in my life! I wish I had never seen it! I sickened.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: gettysburg
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To: DUMBGRUNT

it was

an analogy

Lee = bidend

diversity ( marxism ) = > slavery

bidenbots freeperconneds

top 3

meganc

redreverendmom

swilliams


21 posted on 07/01/2023 3:03:18 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Lee is putin

fighting

the global diversity nazis

to stop gay white slavery

of the bigoted marxist north neocom neocon axis of evils

putin has the reserves to do it too


22 posted on 07/01/2023 3:26:53 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The area around Gettysburg is still beautiful today. Worth a trip.


23 posted on 07/01/2023 3:33:49 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: Firehath

Did you just wonder over from a Pro- Confederate site?


25 posted on 07/01/2023 4:53:56 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YYESHU IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! there is no coexistence wi)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yeah...I know...but Lee didn’t fully leave until the 4th. Meade felt too mauled to pursue.

Either way, Lincoln got to fully digest 2 huge confederate losses on the 4th.


26 posted on 07/01/2023 5:11:29 PM PDT by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

The actual vote for independence by the Second Continental Congress was on July 2, 1776. On July 3, John Adams wrote a letter to his wife predicting that in the future Americans would celebrate July 2nd. Of course July 4 is the date that the Declaration of Independence was adopted (although it was not signed until later) and since 1777 July 4 has been the day celebrated.


27 posted on 07/01/2023 5:23:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: cowboyusa

more like

the original

13 colonies ( pluralism )

fighting European tyranny

like the antichrist super state usa ( nazi diversity ) now

1m x’s worse

hats off to putin

hurray


28 posted on 07/01/2023 5:25:08 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Robert E. Lee was a duly commissioned officer in the US Army who took up arms against the Constitution he took an oath to defend. He's lucky he wasn't hung. After the disaster for the Confederacy at Gettysburg he and Davis should have seen the war was lost. They didn't and the slaughter continued for two more years.
29 posted on 07/01/2023 11:52:10 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

Mostly agreed.

Papers in the north called for his hanging and he rode into Appomattox expecting his fate.

Four years later Lee accepted an invitation to the White House from President Grant.

Gen Lee was a complex man of great honor, that cannot be changed.

As Lincoln said:
“The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract.”


30 posted on 07/02/2023 5:28:00 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Bayard
Is there the same fidelity to the federal government today?

Absolutely! There are many leftists who are ready, willing , and able to do violence against you. They permeate all facets of public and private entities, especially the Federal government.

31 posted on 07/02/2023 6:34:36 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: enumerated
The proper focus on Independence Day is the War of Independence

Except, of course, we really need to declare independence from the existing government. Now its a mix that requires focus.

32 posted on 07/02/2023 6:36:33 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: jmacusa
Robert E. Lee was a duly commissioned officer in the US Army who took up arms against the Constitution he took an oath to defend.

Actually, it was Lincoln who was at war with the Constitution and breaking his oath. Lee was just fighting the central government which was, itself, violating the Constitution.

33 posted on 07/02/2023 6:49:14 AM PDT by Brass Lamp
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To: GingisK

True.


34 posted on 07/02/2023 8:02:51 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

July 2, 1863 - Day 2- my great great grandfather James Edwards Jones of the 8th New Jersey, wounded.
My 9th great grandfather Derick Hollenbeck 8th Albany Militia was on duty at West Point when his Commanding Officer Benedict Arnold committed his treason and was there when British Spy Master John Andre was executed in September/October 1780.
John Hollenbeck, my 8th great uncle served in the War of 1812.

These men make me proud of my family and my country.


35 posted on 07/02/2023 10:36:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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To: jmaroneps37

—”These men make me proud of my family and my country.”

And well they should!

One of my kin and several others were taken prisoner in Kansas and held for a few days.

They agreed NOT to reenter the war and were released to walk home to Ohio.


36 posted on 07/02/2023 11:19:22 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A poll in March 1940 found that 96 percent of Americans were against going to war with Germany.”

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Out of options when Germany declared war on us first.


37 posted on 07/02/2023 9:39:19 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Celebrating 42 years of sobriety this year, thank you Heavenly Father.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I don't think Lincoln was referring to the men who were fighting for the enslavement of an entire race.

Certainly not all Southerners were slave owners. Most no doubt believed they were fighting for a way of life, as they perceived it, but their leaders were fighting for an entirely different purpose.

38 posted on 07/02/2023 10:41:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Brass Lamp

Ah no. Nice try. The South chose a path of violent secession to preserve an economic system based on the use of slave labor.

Firing on Ft. Sumter and of course, prior events such as “Bleeding Kansas’’, are what bought about this nations bloodiest war.


39 posted on 07/02/2023 10:56:36 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

—”I don’t think Lincoln was referring to the men who were fighting for the enslavement of an entire race.”
—”With malice toward none...”

4 March 1865 Second Inaugural Address

Lincoln offered conciliatory words to the North and the South.

“With malice toward none with charity for all with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right let us strive on to finish the work we are in to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan ~ to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.”

Also posted in reply #1.

Lincoln wanted to unify not punish, and get the war in the behind him. He was NOT in agreement with his fellow Republicans on this matter.

NB: Simply my view, not attempting to convince or convert.


40 posted on 07/03/2023 9:51:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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