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This Happened — June 19: Julius And Ethel Rosenberg’s Execution
Worldcrunch ^ | 6/19/2023 | Staff

Posted on 06/19/2023 4:40:49 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

It was 70 years ago that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for espionage, accused of providing classified information about atomic bomb technology to the Soviet Union.

What was the charge against Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, a New York couple, were charged with conspiracy to commit espionage, specifically for their alleged involvement in passing atomic bomb secrets to the Soviet Union.

What evidence was presented against the Rosenbergs during their trial?

The main evidence presented against the Rosenbergs was the testimonies of several witnesses, including Ethel Rosenberg's brother, David Greenglass. Greenglass, a former machinist at the Los Alamos laboratory, claimed that he provided Julius with information about the atomic bomb design. Other evidence included intercepted Soviet intelligence messages and testimonies of cooperating witnesses.

What is the ongoing debate about the guilt of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Decades after their execution, the guilt of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg remains a subject of ongoing debate. Some argue that the evidence presented against the couple was insufficient and that their trial was influenced by anti-Communist hysteria.

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KEYWORDS: ethelrosenberg; juliusrosenberg; june19; juneteenth; nuclearspies; nukes; putin; rosenbergexecution; russia; russianspies; treason; whining
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To: NorthMountain
Ah ha. I see. Thank you Captain. The humble but bountiful olive tree was known in the ancient world as ''the tree of wisdom''.
61 posted on 06/19/2023 2:24:31 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

“Any suggestions Madam?”

For cads ... hmmm...

There’s such a long list, it’s hard to pick just one!


62 posted on 06/19/2023 2:27:29 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: jmacusa
Thank you Captain.

It is my calling ...

;'}

A couple of comments on your #58 ...

According to some stuff I recently read (wish I could recall sources)

There was a partially assembled fourth bomb in early August, don't recall whether it was a plutonium or uranium bomb. Pres. Truman explicitly reserved its completion and deployment to his own authority. It was never sent forward. Also, we were many weeks, rather than many months from serial mass production.

The Trinity gadget was a plutonium implosion bomb, and a test for Fat Man to ensure that the design would actually work. The simultaneous detonation of a whole bunch of high explosive "lenses" was and is a tricky business. They got it right the first time.

Little Boy was a uranium gun device, and everybody "knew" that it would work properly. Its detonation over Hiroshima was essentially its test.

63 posted on 06/19/2023 2:38:10 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: jmacusa

They had more. It would have been a few weeks to make another few


64 posted on 06/19/2023 3:44:43 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Vaquero
No, they did not. Sorry but it is simply not true that there was enough enriched uranium left for a third bomb. The situation at the time was desperate. Despite having dropped two atomic bombs the US had used up the uranium it had produced. Most of the uranium came from two outside sources, Canada and the Belgian Congo. If the Japs had not surrendered the US would have either had to take months to get and produce more or invade Japan.
65 posted on 06/19/2023 4:36:54 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Poor Julius and Ethell. They were just trying to create a multipolar world.


66 posted on 06/19/2023 6:22:34 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: jmacusa
Just what is a martini made with and what is a ‘’dry martini?

Gin and vermouth. That was my dad’s go-to drink. I didn’t care for them, but I had a shaker and martini glasses for when he visited me. I always made sure to have fresh vermouth and a jar of jumbo olives when Dad was heading down for a visit.

I’d have Belvedere vodka and soda with a lime wedge. I did like an olive that had soaked in the martini, so Dad would stick two of ‘em in his drink when I was there. 🫒 🫒

67 posted on 06/19/2023 8:27:38 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: marcusmaximus
This Happened — June 19: Julius And Ethel Rosenberg’s Execution

Now there is a reason to have a holiday.

68 posted on 06/19/2023 8:29:46 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: jmacusa
There were four.

The fourth one was being prepped for a delivery to Japan when they surrendered.

We had more in the pipeline and could have been churning them out by September.

69 posted on 06/19/2023 8:35:56 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: jmacusa

Groves expected to have another “Fat Man” atomic bomb ready for use on 19 August, with three more in September and a further three in October;[90] a second Little Boy bomb (using U-235) would not be available until December 1945.[235][236] On 10 August, he sent a memorandum to Marshall in which he wrote that “the next bomb ... should be ready for delivery on the first suitable weather after 17 or 18 August.” Marshall endorsed the memo with the hand-written comment, “It is not to be released over Japan without express authority from the President”,[90] something Truman had requested that day. This modified the previous order that the target cities were to be attacked with atomic bombs “as made ready”.[237] There was already discussion in the War Department about conserving the bombs then in production for Operation Downfall, and Marshall suggested to Stimson that the remaining cities on the target list be spared attack with atomic bombs.[238]

Two more Fat Man assemblies were readied, and scheduled to leave Kirtland Field for Tinian on 11 and 14 August,[239] and Tibbets was ordered by LeMay to return to Albuquerque, New Mexico, to collect them.[240] At Los Alamos, technicians worked 24 hours straight to cast another plutonium core.[241] Although cast, it still needed to be pressed and coated, which would take until 16 August.[242] Therefore, it could have been ready for use on 19 August. Unable to reach Marshall, Groves ordered on his own authority on 13 August that the core should not be shipped.


70 posted on 06/20/2023 4:30:56 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: marcusmaximus

I read somewhere that the Soviets already had the most important secret about fission bombs — the fact that they actually worked.


71 posted on 06/20/2023 11:00:02 AM PDT by powerset
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Uh, no there wasn’t a fourth. Go to wyzant to find the facts.


72 posted on 06/20/2023 11:17:34 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Vaquero

Nope. Go to wyzant and learn the facts.


73 posted on 06/20/2023 11:18:18 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

I got the facts.


74 posted on 06/20/2023 11:45:24 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Vaquero

Then why are you afraid to go to the site I mentioned?

Sorry but the historical record is clear- there was no third bomb.


75 posted on 06/20/2023 11:59:31 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

You got your facts I got mine.


76 posted on 06/20/2023 12:40:28 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: jmacusa
Uh.... Yes. There was and sorry but I have no interest in signing up with a sixth rate tutor service to find out something that is actually to be found in history books written by actual people.
77 posted on 06/20/2023 2:06:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: Vaquero

Neither one of us can make up our own facts. Do the research There was NO third bomb.


78 posted on 06/21/2023 10:53:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

U... well that’s your tough luck chum, neither one of can affect the outcome of history.

There was NO third bomb.


79 posted on 06/21/2023 10:54:19 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa
Yes there was.

I am sorry that you do not want to believe it but reality remains.

Oh and yes we were ready to start churning even more bombs.

Russia, who was only being held up by our shipping massive quantities of food and weapons to them would have fallen. It was probably a mistake to give them a damn thing but Roosevelt the Commie was always a sucker for fascist states.

80 posted on 06/21/2023 11:00:16 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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