Four Ohio-class SSBN were converted into SSGNs
Posted on 05/31/2023 10:38:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Well, four American submarines carry over 300 Tomahawk missiles between them.
Four Ohio-class SSBN were converted into SSGNs
Certainly 600 heavy duty missiles is enough to take out the bulk of the Chinese 200-ship (or so) navy. A single good hit by a Tomahawk will disable a carrier and sink a frigate, two to three hits will take out any ship out there. Certainly five American submarines carry enough payload to sink or disable the entire Chinese navy, even excluding the possibility of nuclear-tipped warheads (Tomahawk or otherwise).
The problem is the many layers of defense the subs would have to contend with to get there. You need to be within 1000 km or so of the target, know where it is and where it’s heading to have any chance of hit. China knows this and has countermeasures against submarines entering their seas. Beyond that there are countermeasures ranging from anti-missile missiles to ECM to CIWS as a last-ditch resort. Not all Tomahawks would hit, that is clear. Some would get through, but many would be shot down en route and many more would miss their marks due to electronic interference.
Tomahawks really aren’t well suited to attack ships, they’re precision guided weapons to take out critical land installations.
So the claim is technically true, but meaningless. Four American submarines have enough non-nuclear payload to sink the entire Chinese navy in one salvo, but it’s doubtful they could ever achieve anything remotely close to that, in any realistic scenario.
Yeah. Posted before I looked closely at the graphic.
Not funny.
Don’t remember, was too long ago, and not memorable
Always pays to read the blurb closely. Else foolish things ensue.
Yes, Charles Q. Brown Jr. He's not just trying to be racially empathetic like Milley, rather, he's a straight-up BLM supporter, and has said he wants to reduce white officers by 10% during his term
87% of Air-Force pilots, for example, are white. He's telling them - you have NO future in the military. F*** him. Let his gender-fluid BIPOCS take on the Russians and Chinese.
Like using a boulder on a mouse I would think. Tomahawks deliver nukes, primarily (specials).
You could use 1 nuke per Chinese warship, but why would you?
Why not use 1 nuke per Chinese warship? Well, it would be fun to watch. Although I see the ChiComs pushing the big red button themselves about 1 second later, which would be bad.
When are some pi$$ed off Injuns going to demand that they change the name? < /sarc >
“Nice 3 Gorges Dam you got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.”
Harpoons problem is range. The Tomahawk has 10x the effective range.
Well, just to be a contrarian, I believe that China does have some hypersonic missiles. Or they could buy some from Russia, whom we KNOW has them. Much harder to defend against. And if they attack in a swarm, even harder to defend.
Here's a plausible wartime scenario. China declares that they will invade and take Taiwan by a date certain. The US warns that they will be opposed, so China attacks some American ships and aircraft to show they mean business.
The Chinese Navy -- which has limited sea experience -- then puts a formation out to menace a lurking American carrier task force in the western Pacific. Suddenly, out of nowhere, a couple of dozen Tomahawks appear and take out several Chinese warships. And this happens every time the Chinese try to gather forces at sea.
Just how eager or able will the Chinese then be to repeat the experience? Might they abort their intended attack on Taiwan? Or be able to succeed if they try it anyway?
As odd as it sounds, both the US and China have fought such battles hundreds of times in detailed computerized war games and exercises. The results get analyzed and reported upward to military and national decision-makers and become part of training, doctrine, and strategy. My guess is that is one of the reasons why American submariners are touting the capabilities of the Tomahawk. As best as can be assessed in peacetime, it is a genuinely formidable weapon against ships at sea.
> China will probably invade by airborne - lots of paratroopers into a fairly small & remote area.
> The seaside defenses of Taiwan are too strong.
a taiwan version of “red dawn” might make an interesting movie.
I would imagine the Chicons have ripped off our blue prints of the Phalanx system at a minimum and that is 40 year old tech. It isn’t going to be that easy.
A strong navy needs a strong industrial base. So the USA industrial base is no match for the Chinese industrial base.
It’s not how many ships you have at the start of a war. What is important is how may you have at the end.
They do’t have enough for that, not that I’m good with the idea of any of them hitting us.
Sure that’s one of the keys, along with others such as technology, training, experience etc.
The US advantage in those areas are far ahead of the slight advantage China has in manufacturing.
We sink one ChiCom ship they build 5 more. They sink one of ours and we struggle to make a replacment. INDUSTRIAL BASE IS EVERYTHING.
They do’t have enough for that,
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In all likelihood, unless you ahave inside PLA knowledge, they do.
They have several hundred DF-41 MIRVd missiles already in place. Each one carries ten 2kt nuclear warheads or one 10kt thermonuclear warhead. They are both road-mobile and fixed silo launch points in Inner Mongolia, out of range of any possible US interception.
We have no, NO defense against them - all hail 0bama/BiteMe! All of them, unless they fail, will hit - all hail Bill Clinton!
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