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To: CapandBall; amnestynone
CapandBall: "Now compare the overall civilian populations and military sizes of Russia and Ukraine between 2/24/22 and now."

In 2021, with our debacle in Afghanistan fresh in memory, every western expert I heard who contemplated war between Russia and Ukraine expected Russia to roll over Ukrainians in a matter of weeks, if not days.
Russians were considered vastly superior in every military respect -- around three times the population, maybe ten times the GDP, a massive, technologically advanced military-industrial base, and with potential support from the CCP, unlimited access to materials of war.

And yet... and yet... somehow, some way, Ukrainians stood their ground and fought off the best that Vlad the Invader could throw at them.
And since then Ukrainians have liberated nearly half of the Ukrainian territories originally conquered by Vlad the Invader.

CapandBall: "The stated goal of Putin for Russia’s “special military operation” was “demilitarization and denazification” of Ukraine."

Here are the reasons Vlad the Invader has given for his 2022 "special military operations":

  1. NATO eastward expansion (there was none since 2014)

  2. Genocide by "Nazis" against Russians in Ukraine (absurd)

  3. Ukraine is not a real country (Ukraine was formally recognized by Russia many times since 1990)

  4. Ukraine might have nuclear weapons (there's no evidence of that)

  5. Russians want to rebuild the old Soviet/Tsarist Empire, to include Eastern European countries (then Vlad's Invasion must be defeated)
There is no rational argument, no sane reasons justifying Vlad the Invader's "special military operations" in 2014 or since 2022.
It's total madness and as now appears, it will not end well for Putin or Russia.

84 posted on 05/30/2023 9:10:25 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
“it will not end well for Putin or Russia.”

It will not end well because in the end justice prevails, sometimes it may take long time. But in the end justice prevails.

85 posted on 05/30/2023 10:00:48 AM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: BroJoeK

10-14 million civilians have left Ukraine since 2/24/22. A third went to Russia, and 2/3rds to EU countries. Most are unlikely to ever return.

Ukrainian’s military has been hollowed out, and going forward the country will suffer from a demographic collapse of military aged men.

The west has selective amnesia about it’s recognition of Ukrainians past NeoNazi problem, they do persist even if the media ignores it.

Russia doesn’t need to take any more land to get Ukraine to expend more troops against fortified positions, Bakhmut has demonstrated that.

Overall then, Russia had been largely successful with demilitarization, and by extension denazification.

I think Ukraine will capitulate by end of summer, sooner if they overextend in their expected pending counteroffensive. Western Tanks, F-16s, Cruise Missiles, etc. won’t help; they just don’t have the man power anymore (not that they ever really did).


86 posted on 05/30/2023 11:30:00 AM PDT by CapandBall
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