Posted on 05/27/2023 6:57:06 AM PDT by ganeemead
Questions that need to be asked...
Odessa and Kharkov...
The rain for the past week will stop tomorrow. It 3-4 days things will be dried out. That’s when things will accelerate.
Translation: The Russians are running!
Douglass MacGreggor has proven to be wrong on nearly all of his analysis of the Russia/Ukraine war the last year. He has been proven wrong over-and-over. This is the same guy who said Russia was going to wipe up Ukraine within a couple of months.
Indeed - his statements have been little more than a dramatic version of Russian propaganda... except that he makes claims that even Russia doesn’t even lay claim to. It also doesn’t match the reports I have gotten from friends I know personally in Ukraine.
He consistently under-states Rusisan losses, over-states Urkainian (though to a lesser degree - Bahmuht has been a deadly fight, costly to both sides - but between the quite plausible 100,000 dead Russians & Wagner and a possible 30k Ukrainian dead - it’s been costly to both.
But I continue to scratch my head - as much as I despise Biden - this somewhat disgraced “Colonel” blames the West, blames Ukraine, and continues to hinge everything on money laundering and all the traditional conspiracy theories regarding that area. He consistently defends one of the most corrupt and evil men in the world - Putin. He ignores hundreds of years of history and decades of broken promises by Russia (under Putin) that go farther back than what he is blaming. He is either simply mentally derranged, or he is on someone’s payroll.
I've noticed that too, I no longer brother to read him.
I think Odessa was always the goal. If the Russians get and control it they might call it.
“This is the same guy who said Russia was going to wipe up Ukraine within a couple of months.”
Yap Yap Yap.
The same shit from you people. Here is an education for you. EVERY SINGLE war whore on TV claimed the same thing.
As for the rest. Cant believe a GD thing any “propaganda” organization spews and your side has a propaganda machine in place that would make Goebbels blush.
“as much as I despise Biden -”
No, you dont despise Biden. Anyone who supports this conflict supports the son of a bitch. .
He's a decorated military hero. How dare you drag his name thru the mud, especially on Memorial day weekend.
“Translation: The Russians are running!”
Unfortunately for the Neocons, the Russians are now running West.
” How dare you drag his name thru the mud, especially on Memorial day weekend.”
He is a disgraced personage and has been no better than a stooge for the Russians just like you are Ivan.
“I think Odessa was always the goal. If the Russians get and control it they might call it.”
Agreed—that was always the prize.
We’ll only find out the true story in the next twenty years or so. This is going to be be comparable to the story of WW2 on the Eastern front; the initial story came from the German Generals who had their own agenda to push, then after the fall of the Soviet Union and opening up of Soviet archives a large amount of historical correction/revision took place.
Anything we hear now is just the players on each side trying to shape the narrative to their own advantage.
It is always necessary to look at the map first. Aside - Napoleon loved maps, devoted great effort to creating accurate maps, and consulted them obsessively. Perhaps the first great commander to place such value on maps.
There is no way to get to Odessa without crossing the Dneiper, and that is a huge undertaking. Russia lost their best opportunity when they withdrew from Kherson and their Dneiper bridgehead. That was a huge strategic loss, it greatly limited Russian strategic options.
They don’t have the troops and engineering effort going on on the Dneiper bank to restore their bridgehead. And if they tried to move all that there that concentration of units and materiel will be spotted immediately by NATO recon assets.
Macgregor is being fatuous here. He knows the nature of the ground as well as we do.
The Russians missed their chance last year. They needed the Kherson bridgehead for that, and they lost it. The Dneiper is a formidable barrier, and will require a huge engineering effort to cross it again. And the Ukrainians certainly arent going to fail to see such a concentration of material.
Indeed, the Ukrainians have been raiding across the river for months now, trying to bait the Russians to divert forces to beef up their own Dneiper defenses.
Never saw the Russians walking away without Odessa. At this point it would habe been remiss for them *not to take it.
I think you’re the one that’s wrong.
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