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The cost of US involvement in NATO's proxy war in the Ukraine's is actually far higher because our military has been providing extensive support in training since 2015 and our military costs are not included in the data above. For example, once our CIA worked with others in NATO to overthrow the Ukraine in 2014, they began building an army there for the purpose of provoking the current war in order to force regime change in Russia. Too bad the Council on Foreign Relations didn't include NATO's expenditures in these charts.

Here's an example of US military spending not in the charts above.

"Through the Joint Multinational Training Group-Ukraine, established in 2015, the U.S. Army and National Guard, together with military trainers from U.S. allies, provided training, mentoring, and doctrinal assistance to the UAF before the war. This training mission was suspended at the outset of Russia’s invasion. In April 2022, DOD announced it would resume training Ukrainian personnel, outside Ukraine, both to operate weapon systems and at the collective unit level. Separately, U.S. Special Operations Forces have trained and advised Ukrainian special forces."

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12040

I noticed that the charts at the top of the thread sometimes quote 2021 data when numbers for 2022 and 2023 are available. I checked one instance wherein the CFR quoted US interest on debt from 2021 to compare with more recent data. On a hunch, I checked and found that US spending on debt is at a historic high. Thanks, Brandon.

Interest Costs on the National Debt Are on Track to Reach a Record High

Since the Ukraine has Biden's secrets, Pentagon biowarfare labs, DNC election theft technology and is Deep State Headquarters, Brandon will give them all our money.

Plus, I believe much of that aid never leaves the US, but is handed around to Schumer, Pelosi, DNC (election theft) and then goes overseas to fellow Deep Staters. Colonel Macgregor (ret.) has noted that the weapons we provide the Ukraine are sometimes sold to organizations like ISIS. 'Foreign aid' for fabricated wars is the gift that keeps on giving.

1 posted on 05/23/2023 11:55:33 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

79b is wrong it’s 110b or more. And the public is never given the total.


2 posted on 05/23/2023 12:00:03 PM PDT by I want the USA back (The democrat party is the most subversive and harmful institution on the planet. Tied with media.)
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To: ransomnote

It depends!

If the Department of Defense is doing the math, we might want to double- and even triple-check their numbers!!

Heck, we might want to check those numbers 3 BILLION times!


3 posted on 05/23/2023 12:03:53 PM PDT by ExTxMarine
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How Much Aid Have U.S. Elites Laundered back into the Pockets of Globalists and their mouthpieces in the US and Abroad? Here Are Six Charts.

there. fixed it.

4 posted on 05/23/2023 12:05:22 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (wake me up when somebody tells the truth)
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To: ransomnote

https://www.usdebtclock.org


6 posted on 05/23/2023 12:10:43 PM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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8 posted on 05/23/2023 12:20:04 PM PDT by Allegra (Free Kiryandil! )
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To: ransomnote

If the Council on Foreign Relations is saying it, they are definitely stretching the truth - so double the amount.

You are also correct - much of this “aid” is just going to existing bloated Fed.gov programs, and the cronies who benefit from them.


9 posted on 05/23/2023 12:20:08 PM PDT by PGR88
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It would be more interesting to see how much of that ends up in the Bidens’ pockets.


10 posted on 05/23/2023 12:28:59 PM PDT by econjack
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We’re fast becoming a global pariah.


11 posted on 05/23/2023 12:33:06 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ Free kiryandil )
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To: ransomnote
This:

"For example, once our CIA worked with others in NATO to overthrow the Ukraine in 2014, they began building an army there for the purpose of provoking the current war in order to force regime change in Russia."

is nonsense. The Obama regime indirectly assisted the Ukrainians to get rid of Putin's puppet Yanukovych, but didn't lift a finger to help Ukraine when Russia invaded in 2014. That hardly sounds like they were trying to provoke a war, does it? And the military training and small supply of weaponry given since 2014 up to 2022 would be a rounding error in the Pentagon budget.

The real problem with the US government has been that it completely ignored Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and assumed like Germany that economic ties would be sufficient to restrain Russian behavior. Putin thought he could restore Russia as a peer great power, use Germany to break NATO, and reestablish a Russian sphere of influence in Eastern Europe. But the current war shows that was simply a fantasy.

15 posted on 05/23/2023 1:22:29 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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Congress Approved $113 Billion of Aid to Ukraine in 2022--Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

Sounds like the Council on Foreign Relations has an agenda. They are intentionally understating our involvement. We have to borrow the money to send to Ukraine. It is closer to $200 billion.

18 posted on 05/23/2023 2:20:41 PM PDT by kabar
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Between the US and EU there is 55 billion dollars in cash to pay off the politicians.


22 posted on 05/23/2023 2:51:50 PM PDT by webheart
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