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1 posted on 05/23/2023 1:10:56 AM PDT by Jonty30
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You could ask Barack Obama that question.


2 posted on 05/23/2023 1:15:33 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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Logically, if the USA was fully States led the Federal government would be constructed like the EU parliament but with far more limits on its lawmaking authority; and its president would have no executive authority at all.

Under those conditions the birth nationality of the president would be irrelevant so long as he or she is an American citizen.


3 posted on 05/23/2023 1:29:23 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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Boris Johnson to become president?!?


5 posted on 05/23/2023 2:23:09 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Anyone can be president. The Dems would vote for an MS13 member over Trump.


10 posted on 05/23/2023 2:41:06 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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Characteristically, becoming the leader of a foreign country would require relinquishment of American citizenship. Even if that is not formally required by the foreign country, taking an oath of office and loyalty to become a foreign leader or other foreign public official is usually considered to be an act that is inconsistent with holding American citizenship and to work as an automatic rejection of it.


17 posted on 05/23/2023 4:08:55 AM PDT by Rockingham
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We’re no longer a republic.

Deep State can install whoever the hell it wants while that’s the case.


19 posted on 05/23/2023 4:28:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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I've done some research on the subject of citizenship because I learned some time ago...to my surprise...that there's a country that considers me to be its citizen (by ancestry).

There are ways that one can lose their US citizenship...but it's not easy thanks to a number of court rulings in recent years. IIRC one of them is when a US citizen takes a job as an official of a foreign government.

20 posted on 05/23/2023 4:37:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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Re: "Natural born, but foreign leader"

From memory...

The Constitution has a permanent residency requirement for a President and Vice President.

Seventeen years - from memory.

27 posted on 05/23/2023 5:20:49 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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Birth etc Constitution does not matter any more - When the time is right, the Dems will run Xi Jinping.


28 posted on 05/23/2023 5:28:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Natural Born = BOTH parents are citizens AND the individual born on home soil. Obama does not meet that standard.


30 posted on 05/23/2023 5:31:49 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner (Vivamus stultus ignarus mori )
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Anything goes now since The Constitution is no longer being observed.

Remember that “We are the World” thingy?


31 posted on 05/23/2023 5:33:24 AM PDT by dforest (Get kiryandil out of the cornfield)
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Winston Churchill could have been POTUS.....................


33 posted on 05/23/2023 5:40:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Well I asked CNN and the WAPO. It all depends:

The US Constitution CLEARLY PROHIBITS a US natural born citizen who had been a former Canadian PM to become the US President, if such person was a conservative, moderate, or even liberal (by standards of ten years ago).

The US Constitution does allow it for former Canadian PMs who are socialists, communists, gender-confused, pedophiles, “minorities”, etc., based on the Fourteenth Amendment.


41 posted on 05/23/2023 7:13:31 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Barak Hussein. After him anyone in the world is qualified to be President of the United States of America. That item in the Constitution has not been repealed but annulled.


43 posted on 05/23/2023 7:34:03 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe )
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“due to dual loyalties”

“Dual loyalties” was the REASON for Article II, Section 1, Clause 5, but in and of itself does not disqualify anyone.

Not born on U.S. soil to TWO U.S. citizen parents DOES!

Someone can have dual loyalties for having gone to a foreign university or by marrying a foreign bride, but that does not make them ineligible to the presidency.

Born on U.S. soil to TWO U.S. citizen parents. THAT is the standard. “natural born citizen”.

NOT born in Kenya, NOT born in Panama, NOT born in Canada, Not born in a FOREIGN embassy.

ParentS MUST BE U.S. citizens when you are born. No do overs. Becoming a citizen later is too late.

That is why all of Donald Trump’s children (except Tiffany) are NOT eligible, NOT natural born citizens.

But hey, Obama did it, so now anyone can be president.

Just ANOTHER reason that our country is DOOMED.


46 posted on 05/23/2023 8:17:16 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality.html

Section 349 of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. nationals are subject to loss of nationality if they perform certain specifiedacts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. nationality. Briefly stated, these acts include:

obtaining naturalization in a foreign state after the age of 18 (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);
taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or its political subdivisions after the age of 18 (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);
entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the United States or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA);
accepting employment with a foreign government after the age of 18 if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA);
formally renouncing U.S. nationality before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA);
formally renouncing U.S. nationality within the United States (The Department of Homeland Security is responsible for implementing this section of the law, and any inquiries should be directed to DHS) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA);
conviction for an act of treason against the Government of the United States or for attempting by force to overthrow, or bear arms against, the Government of the United States (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).


58 posted on 05/23/2023 11:17:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won’t be offended)
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Who did you have in mind, Ted Cruz?


60 posted on 05/23/2023 11:25:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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