Right-wing politics I consider to mean limited government, with the citizens enjoying liberty. The further right you go, where there is no government, to me that means anarchy.
Wikipedia explains far-right politics as "...a spectrum of political thought that tends to be radically conservative, ultra-nationalist, and authoritarian, often also including nativist tendencies ... ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, and/or reactionary views." Far-left is described as "The term does not have a single, coherent definition; some scholars consider it to represent the left of social democracy, while others limit it to the left of communist parties. In certain instances—especially in the news media—far left has been associated with some forms of authoritarianism, anarchism, communism, and Marxism, or are characterized as groups that advocate for revolutionary socialism and related communist ideologies, or anti-capitalism and anti-globalization. Far-left terrorism consists of extremist, militant, or insurgent groups that attempt to realize their ideals through political violence rather than using democratic processes."
So, circling back to my above question, what is far-right?
On this plane is plotted everything, communism, lassez-faire capitalism, libertarianism, fascism, socialism, nazi-ism, monarchy, and many other political dominations. It all makes sense when you look at it. Unfortunately I can't remember which FReeper put it up; perhaps he/she will drop by and re-post it here.
Good viewpoint—I would also state that it takes two oars to row a boat (Don’t tell me about sculling)
Far-Right is a construct invented by Communists after WWII to put Naziism at the opposite end of the spectrum from themselves. I use Up-Down instead of Left-Right, where Up is all forms of totalitarian government - Western governments of today fall above the midpoint, Constitutional government is below the midpoint, and anarchy is all the way Down.
as usual i’m way off in the FR scheme of things:
to me far right = Jesus’ Kingdom of God.
far left = Hell (i.e. anti-God).
so, for example to me, libertarians and communists are flip sides of the same leftist coin. moral monarchy is far right and pure democracy is far left, but not quite as far left as anarchy.
I will give you the correct answer. I’ve dealt with this question enough to be able to provide an easy to understand cognizant answer as to why Nazi’s are considered far-right in Europe.
You have objective, right and left, and subjective, right and left. Objective right and left explains an individual’s relationship to the government. Subjective explains right and left in relation to the individual.
The more objectively right one goes, the more individualistic one is and the greater the desire to have a weak government. The more objectively left one goes, the greater one wants his government and the less he wants for the individual. This is where the political line graph goes from anarchy to libertarianism to conservatism to Republicanism to Democratism to liberalism to socialism to fascism to communism.
Subjectively, one can be right or left when compared to a system or between individuals. Although, I would classify myself as a libertarian with conservative economic values, there would be people to the right of me or to the left of me.
The reason why liberals argue that fascism is far right is because they define it subjectively, in relation to where liberals place themselves. Liberals are in the middle between communism and fascism, with a slightly more lenient fascist beliefs than Nazism-fascism. In the liberal mind, there is no such thing as individiualism.
Peterson stated that history provides examples of far-right and left policies gone too far. For far-right, his example was World War II and over 120 miliion dead. For far-left, his example was governments murdering over 100 million of their own citizens.
George Washington.
Q.E.D.
As the deliberations (conducted in the tennis courts at the palace at Versailles) continued, the assemblymen who believed the king should have veto authority began to congregate to the right of the president of the assembly. Those who thought the king should not have veto power congregated on the left.
And that is the origin of the political right and political left.
However, that was a single issue division. Politics rarely is about a single issue, and modern political divisions cannot be represented by any such linear construct. Not even close.
What the left-right analogy has devolved to, at least in the eyes of the left, is a pedestal for moral posturing. Right Wing: bad. Far Right Wing: worse. Anything they want to denigrate automatically is far right wing.
When they call movements with a largely socialist bent -- such as the Neo-Nazis -- far right wing, it has absolutely Sweet Fanny Adams to do with their political disposition and everything to do with the left's desire to associate any movement the general public will find reprehensible with the greater right wing movement.
In short, the terminology long since has lost any political relevance and had become nothing more than a political bludgeon employed most successfully by the Marxists to paint every wackadoodle in the spectrum as a right-wing lunatic.
Two fundamental distinctions between progressives and conservatives come to mind.
The first is the sovereignty of the individual, highly valued by conservatives but for the most part rejected by progressives.
Another is a belief in objective moral law, also supported by conservatives but rejected by progressives.
From my days in Young Americans for Freedom, before its child took it over and neutered it.
THE EXTREMIST HYMN
(To “The Battle Hymn of the Republic”)
Mine eyes have seen the horrors of the militant extreme.
I have heard about their tennis shoes and eyes that madly gleam.
They are armed and more fanatical than you would ever dream!
I’ll track down every one!
CHORUS:
Glory be, there goes another!
Glory be, there goes another!
Glory be, there goes another!
I’ll track down every one! **
Extremists are the people to the right of Chester Bowles,
For they don’t believe in giving in to socialism’s goals.
They don’t even favor foreign aid for Yugoslavs or Poles!
I’ll track down every one!
CHORUS
I am not afraid of Communists, their numbers are too small,
But extremists come in millions, and EACH ONE IS TEN FEET TALL!
Yes, extremists come in millions and are patriotic all.
I’ll track down every one!
CHORUS
I have seen them in the hallways and I’ve seen them in the bars.
I have seen them in the caucuses; they come from near and far.
They control the Y.A. F. and they control the C.Y.R.
I’ll track down every one!
CHORUS
They are hiding in my closet. They are always in the way.
They are lurking in the hallways...I SAW 54 TODAY!
They are spying on our meetings till my hair is turning grey.
I’ll track down every one!
CHORUS
Exposing them in public was a brilliant thing to do.
Now the People’s World adores me and the Nation loves me too.
But extremists have to get their praise from National Review.
I’ll track down every one!
CHORUS
** To be sung pointing at one or another egregious rightist deviationist, who may, as the evening wears on, elect to wear a lampshade to hide from the accusing finger of the People’s Justice.
The far-right, is an occurence, such as:
- barbecuing steaks on a charcoal or gas grill
- defending your life
- any attempt to convey the love of Jesus
- recommending putting a baby up for adoption instead of for abortion
- when you fail to worship the color of a person’s skin
- expressing any belief in individual freedom
- respecting the foundations of the construction of our Constitution: examples: enumeration of powers, original intent
- if you are a guy, telling a girl, “you look nice today”
- if you are a girl, telling a guy, “you look nice today”
- when you think
A fabrication by the left to vilify anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
I think a key area is the distinction between Group or Individual rights.
If you have a tribal approach, or support “class warfare” or believe in a “master race” then you are focused on Group Rights. That’s Collectivism. People of that sort usually want a strong central government with lots of authority to force people to recognize the preeminence of the special group. Of course, the “special group” usually turns out to really be a oligarchy of elitists who want to pull society’s strings. But, in theory, the power of government is there to carry out the will of the proletariat, the Aryan race, or the Woke. This could be termed “negative liberty” in that obstacles and constraints are forcibly removed to channel activities along a “correct” path. A powerful government makes life easy because all of your choices have already been made for you.
On the other hand, if you focus on Individual rights, then the focus is on “positive liberty” and the ability for each person to control their own life. It’s about personal responsibility and in this case the role of government is pretty minor — it helps prevent force, fraud and abuse that would limit the actions of an individual who wishes to freely decide how they will live. Limiting government allows maximizing personal freedom.
The answer to this is simple, the far right are high IQ individual thinkers who care about law and order, the far left are insane evil criminals. There, that’s all there is to it!
individualist
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collectivist