Posted on 05/19/2023 9:21:08 AM PDT by Red Badger
A high enough concentration of methane in the air might catch fire if ignited but it wouldn’t explode unless it was in a strong container.
Didnt answer the question of how the entire place went up in under 30 seconds.
That doesn’t sound bogus or anything. 🙄
Yeah. Liquid Manure no doubt. That new age stuff that stinks of the neighborhood and seeps into the ground water. Those spreaders often have giant plastic tanks as well.
All 18,000 cows farted at once.
Those manure spreaders are the only product John Deere won’t stand behind.
Methane is notably ‘lighter than air’ (specific gravity of .554). In an open-air environment it disperses rapidly, unlike propane.
I find it hard to believe that they would create an explosion risk by enabling enough methane to collect in a building. The lower explosive limit of Methane is ‘high’ compared to most gases, a little over 4% volume in air, whereas propane is closer to 2%. Methane is odorless natively, and is not TOXIC, but in high-enough concentrations it IS ‘suffocating’ if there’s not enough O2 in the mix.
And to have such a big explosion, that implies there was a LOT of methane within its explosive limits in the air.
Dunno.
Liquid methane is not explosive. It has to be gaseous within its explosive limits of about 14 - 16% by volume in the air.
dang it.
4% - 16% approx.
we regret the error.
Sooo...
A shitwagon shorted out and ignited the methane in the holding tanks.
Makes perfect sense.
The dairy farmers up here call liquefied cow shit liquid gold.
The shitwagon people pay the cattle ranchers to pump out the holding tanks, and they haul it off and sell it to the farmers, and then spread it on their fields.
Full circle.
The dairy people up here only have a couple thousand head on their ranches.
The risk of a methane explosion is very real.
This outfit had 18 thousand head.
Add a spark and KABOOM
Maybe the fuel tank on the unit exploded and combined with the Methane gas in the building’s atmosphere.
I’m not ruling out anything though...
Assuming their explanation was true:
1. Wouldn’t the methane disperse in the air?
2. Wouldn’t there be more than one human casualty?
3. Wouldn’t this have happened in the past?
4. Wouldn’t farmers (and shitwagon folks) KNOW to watch out for this - especially with the large bovine population?
5. Should the USDA and related federal alpha-bit agencies be all over these guys by now?
Sorry, but to mem, the cause if this doesn’t hold water.
HOWEVER, that guy that monitors military air traffic (youtube >> monkeywerx) has been reporting air re-fuelers in this area for sometime - indicated the existence of fighter jets and other military activity in this area. A connection? Who knows.
just my $0.02.
-jimjohn
I think the cattle died of either smoke inhalation or lack of oxygen from the explosion sucking up all the O2 like a ‘fuel-air bomb’ in the military arsenal. It looks amazingly like a nuclear explosion when one goes off, but no radiation..................
must have been anti matter manure from an alternate universe.
No mention of even a single human death?
Regards,
The barn was over 2 million square feet.
In a barn that size with that many cows ... that's a LOT of manure.
Re: 28 - Not sure how these barns were constructed, but in an operation I worked at, scrapers would push manure into an enclosed underfloor pit at the end of one of the barns. Depending on circumstances it could be aerated prior to being loaded into a manure tank, so that the solids mixed with liquids so that the resulting slurry was more easily loaded into a tank and spread onto fields.
If such a setup, perhaps the level of methane was so high that a nearby spark or flame caused the explosion.
We were always very careful in/around enclosed spaces regarding methane. It will overcome you very fast if a high enough level.
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